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- I'm your partner. I'm your friend. - Is that what we are? - Oh, you know what? I don't know what we are. We kiss and then we never talk about it. We nearly die frozen in each other's arms, but we never talk about it, so no, I got no clue what we are.
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Tank - This is heart-breaking! Poor Lois! Poor Clark! Poor Jimmy - or not, actually - he seems relatively unharmed . But Poor Lois! She thinks Clark is dead - which is just awful - but maybe this will be the impetus for her to realise her feelings for him? Hopefully? I'd be really worried if I didn't know that it was Wendy's turn to fix your broken toys Oh, and Wendy - just b/c Tank needed months to set this up for you, there's no reason for you to take an equivalent amount of time to clear up this mess. We all know that you can do it in much less time than that! Good luck Wendy - looking forward to the conclusion! shells
You must be the change you wish to see in the world.
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Tank ditto others YOu are evil as others have said Wendy has her work cut out for her merry
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Uhuh, I don't think so. Ya see, we knows people. And dese people can help us gets things done, ya hear? And dese people knows where youse lives. Unnerstan? So youse hads better gets dis story fixed right and quickly!
"You need me. You wouldn't be much of a hero without a villain. And you do love being the hero, don't you. The cheering children, the swooning women, you love it so much, it's made you my most reliable accomplice." -- Lex Luthor to Superman, Question Authority, Justice League Unlimited
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Yikes! I don't know who I feel more sorry for - Clark whose been blown to bits or Lois who's going to need some major reconstructive surgery to repair her broken nose and missing teeth! Sounds like she's safer taking the abuse that Superman's villains dish out to her. What a pickle! Great setup - Can't wait to see how you get these two out of this one! Lynn
You know that boy'd walk on water for you? Or he'd drown tryin'. -Perry White to Lois in Just Say Noah
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Actually, I'm not too worried. Oh yes, this is undeniably Looking forward to your response, Wendy, hopefully before October... KathyM
"Our thoughts form the universe. They always matter." - Babylon 5
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Thanks to all who have had fun with thing. I have to admit that I did too. Wendy doesn't quite have it right. I've been thinking about a storyline similar to this for a while but have only had this finished being written shortly before my pinched nerve trouble started. Also, she forgot to mention that I gave her the opportunity to see this ahead of time and bow out of the challenge aspect if she wished to, since this isn't like our typical challenge situations.
Roger, I have to disagree with you as to Clark/Superman's behavior being anti-noble. I agree that Lois can be percieved as being noble in this case as she is giving up quite a bit to 'solve' their problem. But Clark is also being noble by realizing that Lois is right, and that her life is going to be in constant jeapordy as long as she stays around him. He doesn't want to give her up, but he'd rather give her up than see her killed. His offer to leave was genuine, but Lois is pretty adamant about that point and Clark is smart enough (really he is) to know that he won't win that particular argument. He may only have been Superman for less than a year, but he does have a pretty solid idea of what Superman represents to Metropolis and the rest of the world. I'm not trying to change your mind (nor would I argue with LauraBF about her opinion),I'm just saying that I don't totally agree.
Lastyly I want to say that the 'blowing up of Clark' was a last minute addition just for the fun of complicating the duo's ability to get back together. The story's main concern is still their 'forced' absense from each other, and how they go about dealing with it, (and that one small additional detail;) ).
I like angst in a story, but I grow easily tired of the angst of misunderstanding. Those emotional travails that spring from miscommunications and 'just not talking to each other'. That kind of angst can frustrate me. But on the other hand, I do enjoy the angst created by 'real' situations. That's why I like TOGoM so much. Even though Clark didn't really die. To Lois his death was real and her angst was in dealing with this 'real' situation. Likewise, Clark's angst over anytime Lois actually gets hurt is based on 'real' situations. He's especially vulnerable in those situations where he thinks he failed her by not being there to 'save' her.
So, since we know that Wendy has been know to indulge herself and her audience in a little angst now and again, I thought I wouldn't really challenge her but allow her to 'play' with a little 'real' type angst.
It should be fun.
Tank (who has a really, really, evil vignette rolling around in his mind but it will have to wait until he can actually type without pain again)
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I'm not trying to change your mind Wouldn't be as much fun if you didn't try. Seeing as Clark's thinking along these matters is usually pretty muddy, I can see your thinking on the matter. The scenario you arranged is a pretty good setup. It'll be interesting to see what comes out of it. (who has a really, really, evil vignette rolling around in his mind but it will have to wait until he can actually type without pain again) What happened? Hope it's not serious. We need you to take care of yourself so we can enjoy your stories in the future, too. Especially this evil vignette you have cooking. I love angst as much as the next guy.
-- Roger
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself." -- Benjamin Franklin
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Clark's thinking along these matters is usually pretty muddy Don't you just hate it when someone manages to say, in one neat, succinct phrase, exactly what you wanted to say yourself? I spent ten minutes last night trying to compose a response to the Tank/Roger debate, and eventually gave up because I'd thought myself into oblivion. Now Roger jumps in and says it for me - so darned neatly. Anyway, I enjoyed the additional and machiavellian twists you've added, Tank. Looking forward to evil Wendy's response. <g> Yvonne
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Oh, way cool. He can't bring Superman to California for Lois's sake, but Clark can't go home to Metropolis. What a problem!!! Great, great set up, Tank. Let 'er rip, Wendy! Sherry
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Wow, Tank, you really do like to make a mess of things, don't you? This is a very intriguing set-up, and I agree that angst based on 'real' situations can be even more stressful than 'relationship, not-talking' angst (although I still like that kind, too <g>). I won't get in to the Clark nobility debate, because I can see this being something that Clark would do - or rather, let Lois do. For one thing, it's like the title implies, "The Needs of the Many" - Clark's nobility requires him to keep Superman around for the people of Metropolis. And I agree wholeheartedly that he was a dumb git in Contact. But I do think that Lois' reasoning is flawed here. For one thing, if she's moving to LA to avoid and to keep from getting herself killed, boy did she pick the wrong city. And anyway, in case she'd forgotten, she gets herself into plenty of life-threatening situations without Superman's help. Hello, she was on a space shuttle about to be blown apart by a bomb when she first met the guy! She'll still in danger in LA, only now she doesn't have the 'Help, Superman!' fallback - as we so eloquently saw in this part of the story. And if her reasoning in moving is that she could be kidnapped and used as a pawn to make Superman do something (commit a crime), she's still available for kidnapping in LA. The Metropolis criminals could send minions to LA to kidnap, or the west coast criminals could kidnap and send a nice e-mail ransom note back to Metropolis or something - still resulting in the scenario of Superman being put in the position of "Do this, or your girl dies." So...I don't really have any answers as to what the better solution would be, unless you take Irene's scenario from 'New Heights', which wouldn't be any fun, cuz this is a Tank and Wendy story and must therefore be their own, complicated creation. <g> Though I gotta admit that I am shocked that Tank didn't take full advantage of the opportunity to blow Jimmy to smithereens! But he did get the haircut in there - I was ROTFLing! PS - Hope your hand starts feeling better soon, Tank.
Beaker: Special Talents: Scientific assistant, Victim Last Book Read: "1001 Meeps to a Bigger Vocabulary" Quote: "Meep! Meep! Meep!" Never Leaves Home Without: Medical Coverage
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Hi, Getting good.
Maria D. Ferdez. --- Don't like Luthor, unfinished, untitled and crossover story, and people that promises and don't deliver. I'm getting choosy with age. MAF
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