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Found this for you. smile More part(s) posted soon. It's fairly dark, though not to the level of that one story. /shudders still/
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Great first chapter. Thanks you! Left a comment on the other board.

The title of your tome reminds me of another Superman death-fic where humanity kills it's hero.

Fall of A God

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8186341/1/Fall-of-a-God

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A story idea for anyone who dares. Very bittersweet. As it should be. Mouserocks? Others?

I Didn't Know


Lois is writing Lex Luthor's obituary. He took his own life two days ago and left a terse note - "I didn't know". Lois knows but it will remain secret until she has passed on and her personal files are made public.

4 months ago:

Lex Luthor wanted everything perfect. He had reconnected with his boyhood friend Clark Kent after years of animosity. The past 6 months had been Lex's happiest since his boyhood. He and Clark attending basketball games, having a drink at the bar and talking over old times.

Tonight Lois had finally agreed to come to a dinner hosted by Lex with Clark. She was not happy with Clark's resumed friendship with Lex. She did not trust Lex.

A year ago:

Clark had decided the goodness that was Lex in his youth was still there. Waiting to be brought out. Superman prevented that from happening but Clark might be able to redeem Lex - as Clark and by renewing their friendship.

It had been as much a rewarding time for Clark as for Lex. Lex's criminal activities seemed to fall off. His anti-Superman traps while still happening were much less frequent than in previous years.

Two weeks before the dinner:

Luthor had been informed by his Cadmus mole that Superman might have learned of his control center 100 miles west of Metropolis. All Lex's plans, his technology, his "crimes" were archived there.

Lex made a decision. He'd laid off Superman pretty much for almost a year now. Maybe it was his rekindled friendship with Clark, but the alien and elimininating him was no longer the passion it had been. Still, Lex could not and would not allow Superman to learn his secrets. He raised his anti-Superman protocol to "red" in the control center. Activating weapons, technology and devices that Superman had no knowledge existed but that would do the trick if Superman broke into the center.

The dinner - 4 months ago:

Lois arrived first the night of the dinner. Escorted to the top of Metropolis's tallest tower Lex had the restaurant set aside for the party of 4. Lois told lex Clark would be there soon but had gotten a lead on a story he needed to check out.

After an hour Clark had not arrived and Lex suggested postponing the dinner. And announcing the surprise. He'd paid off the mortgage on the Kent farm and Clark's parents would be set for life.

Just then the tower rocked. Earthquake Lex thought.

In reality 100 miles west of Metropolis a massive explosion had occurred.

The next day:

Clark did not show up for work. Perry had Lois finish Clark's story on Superman's greatest feats. It needed to be posted that day.

The next day. Clark again didn't show for work. Clark Kent never showed up for work again.

A few months later Lex killed himself - "I didn't know" was all the suicide note said.

Lex had changed his trust just a day before he died. His massive empire worth hundreds of billions was donated to the Superman Memorial Society. Lois Lane, Martha and Jonathan Kent, Jimmy Olsen, Pete Ross and Lana Lang were named the trustees of the fund. That and the Kents were to be taken care of for life.

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I know only a few on these boards are following this incredible death-fic. Anyway, FYI - the author has decided to continue the story.

Not for the faint of heart but arguably among the best Superman fics out there.

Lex Luthor Triumphant - chapter 2. devil

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8700173/2/Lex-Luthor-Triumphant

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For those following this incredibly well written and tragic fic, chapter 3 is up.

No Superman in this chapter. No blood or gore.

Only Lex finally breaking into the Fortress after 6 months of trying.

The author does an incredible job of describing everything in the Fortresss. Each room and all.

The poignant part of this chapter is a room in the Fortress dedicated to Lois with momentos and a photo of their first flight. Enough to make any Lois and Clark romantic cry.

Other rooms and discoveries as to Superman's inner thoughts and desires. His hopes that were never to come to pass.

BTW, the author is an incredible writer. This reads like a novel.

Lex Luthor Triumphant chapter 3:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8700173/3/Lex-Luthor-Triumphant

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Don't know if I can read deathfics right now.


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Hi Morgana,

I can sympathize since I have the inside scoop.

I had a hard time writing the two that I've written.


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Agreed.

Reading about death of anyone or thing is not on my radar these days.

I changed my own deathfic to one with hope and a slight touch of humor between Lois and Clark.


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I don't read deathfic.

I read and write fanfic and original stories for entertainment, to escape from the nasty realities of real life. If I want to feel bad, all I need to do is read the news. I don't need to find a story to read about the death of people I like.

To those who do, I mean no incivility, but I will never knowingly read a deathfic, and when I have been tricked into doing so, I feel nothing but anger at the person who so tricked me.

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Nan, do you have any new fanfic in the pipeline?

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Yes, but I am still working sporadically on finishing the Vampire Murders, and then Smallville, the concluding story (at least so far) to the Four Days to Nightfall series.

After that, I have one started that is tentatively entitled Supergirl, the next story in the Dagger series, and one as yet untitled which is the next story in the Vacation series. As well as a couple of ideas for single stories.

The only difficulty is trying to find time to actually write.

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PS: my apologies to going off topic to the thread.

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No problem going off-topic.

I understand on the L&C boards it's the odd duck such as myself and Mouserocks who enjoy a well written death-fic.

I was sure to put plenty of warnings when I referenced the story. Not for everyone.

It is getting a tremoudous reception on the other board but death-fics are fairly common there. There are like 3 or so of them right now on the first page of the Superman board over there.

The author, despite the subject, is incredibly talented. He is touching on every element in the Superman lore. Comics, TV, films.

The story arguably ranks there with All Star Superman by Grant Morrison. One of the most acclaimed graphic novels in recent years. Coincidentally it's a death-fic in which Luthor kills Superman.

The author is being encouraged to submit a story proposal to DC and maybe novelize his fic or one of his other story concepts.

I don't know if that is wise. If he submits it to DC as a spec I think he gives up rights to his work.

Anyway, thanks for your comments. My apologies if this thread offended you.


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Yes, but I am still working sporadically on finishing the Vampire Murders, and then Smallville, the concluding story (at least so far) to the Four Days to Nightfall series.

After that, I have one started that is tentatively entitled Supergirl, the next story in the Dagger series, and one as yet untitled which is the next story in the Vacation series. As well as a couple of ideas for single stories.

The only difficulty is trying to find time to actually write.

Nan

PS: my apologies to going off topic to the thread.

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It didn't offend me, but I have found that unless I am very direct, many individuals cannot comprehend that I really mean what I say about deathfics. I won't read them, period, full stop. There have been a few persons in the past who tricked me into reading them, on the premise, I think, that once I read them I'd change my mind. All it did was make me furious.

It was somewhat like my son's English teacher in 9th grade who called me, at her wit's end, because my son absolutely refused, point blank, to read some book she had assigned him.

I asked: "Does the hero die at the end?" (I know English assignments. For some reason the schools love to have their heroes die.)

She said that he did. The story was about a boy with leukemia. I told her that was the problem. Alan simply refused to read that kind of book. She told me, "Well, yes, he dies, but all these wonderful things happen first." I said: "Yes, but he still dies at the end."

"Well, yes," she told me, "but he gets this great friend, and helps out so and so, and reconciles his divorcing parents, and..."

And I said, "But he dies at the end. Alan doesn't care about all these other great things. All he cares about is that somebody that he has gotten to like dies at the end. That's the sticking point, and you will not change his mind. He will take a failing grade before he will read a story where the hero dies."

It took a lot of convincing, but eventually she told me that she would give him an alternate assignment, which he did without the slightest objection. I had never tried to shape Alan's views on the subject, but right from the time he started reading, he hated stories where the hero dies, and he will not negotiate. I am exactly the same way, but sometimes it is awfully hard to communicate that to someone else.

So, as I said, I wasn't offended. I was just being direct so there would be no misunderstanding. Any other work of yours I will willingly read. But no deathfics.

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My story "Another Dimension, Another Time, Another Lois" is technically a deathfic, in the fact that Clark isn't alive in it (it starts out with Tempus succeeding in killing baby Kal-El in "Tempus Fugitive"). The story is more about how Lois would have coped, and fended for herself, with all that happens to her at the end of S2 and into S3 without Clark around (without knowing that he should have been around, too), and whether learning that Clark should have been there would drive her insane. Of course, since there's never been a Superman in this dimension a lot of other people die or get injured who survived in canon. The story isn't about Clark dying, but about Lois surviving long enough to be able to save Clark from dying in the first place. I cannot say more without ruining the ending of Book 1, and since Book 2 (of the Wrong Trilogy) is still a work in progress, I cannot tell you if she is ever successful in her endeavors.

Like Nan, normally I cannot read a story where a beloved character dies (and why I hated "Lovely Bones" and thought it a horrible, horrible story, unlike the majority of readers and critics). I would rather a death mean something, as in Mouserocks's "Distraught" and "Mr. Kent is Dead" stories, than just because you've got a really cool way to kill off a character, horror for horror sake, or it's just something that happens. There also has to be closure, the other characters have to be able to come to terms with the death in a way that gives the reader hope, otherwise it's pointless.

More often than not, I'll give a deathfic a pass, because I want a happily ever after. If I wanted to be depressed, there's enough of that in RL.


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I don't mind death in a story, so long as it works. I used to read a lot of the Lurlene McDaniel books when I was a kid - someone always died in those. And I LOVE Where The Red Fern Grows, in which the boy's dogs both die. I cry everytime, but I love the story.

That being said, for some reason, I don't really go for it in fics, unless it is something that comes at the end. I can't really get into a fic where Lois or Clark are dead from the get-go. (Mouse's Distraught being an exception, since Lois is dead from the start.)


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Daeth-fics can be the most powerful and poignant of stories. If that death has a real meaning.

The most popular Superman comic book story of the past 15 years was All Star Superman by Morrision.

It shows have Superman's career will eventually end. Luthor poisons him. He is slowly dying and knows it. He does a final 12 great feats for humanity.

But the perfect closure found in this story comes at the end. A by product of the poisoning is that Superman's strength is amplified many fold. In the end a massive sun like force is heading to Earth and will destroy it. Superman with his increaded power level flies into space and stops it. Dying in the process. Ironically it's the increased power level that allows him to stop it. If he hadn't been poisoned he would not have been able to do it. Earth would have been destroyed.

Perfect closure to the never ending battle. Jor-El wasn't able to save Krypton and dies trying to. Superman dies but in the process saves Earth.

The last panel has Lois sitting in a park beneath the Superman memorial. While her loss is the most personal of all she sees children playing, the green tress - life going on. All because of Superman.

Powerful and poignant.

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