Posted on Deadline and other outlets today...AWESOME! Deadline article
Text of the article:
CBS is drawing from the DC Comics superhero TV and film universe for the latest additions to its Supergirl pilot. Dean Cain, who played Clark Kent/Superman in the 1990s TV series Lois & Clark: The New Adventures Of Superman, and Helen Slater, who played Kara Zor-El/Supergirl in the 1984 film Supergirl, are set to guest star in what is described only as “mystery roles.”
Based on the DC Comics characters, Supergirl — from Warner Bros. TV and Berlanti Prods. — centers on Kara Zor-El (Melissa Benoist). Since arriving on Earth, the Krypton-born Kara has been hiding the powers she shares with her famous cousin, Superman. But now at age 24, she decides to embrace her superhuman abilities and be the hero she always was meant to be. They join previously announced Benoist, Chyler Leigh, Calista Flockhart, and David Harewood.
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I know it's unlikely, but wouldn't it be cool if they asked Dean to don the suit again. I mean, Superman is supposed to be "older" (in that he arrived on Earth earlier than Kara. I know that some canon has Kara as originally the elder of the two cousins).
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VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
I doubt he'd want to try squeezing his butt into the Spandex again...but, by all means, feel free! Speculation so far has circled around Jor-El, Jonathan Kent, Curtis Knox, or Dr. Virgil Swann. I'm just happy he's attached to the show in any role, and hopefully it will extend past the pilot.
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I doubt he'd want to try squeezing his butt into the Spandex again...but, by all means, feel free!
I doubt he'd want to either, but if they asked... his ego might be flattered enough to say 'yes' with certain conditions. Hey, we can daydream, can't we?
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Speculation so far has circled around Jor-El, Jonathan Kent, or Dr. Virgil Swann. I'm just happy he's attached to the show in any role, and hopefully it will extend past the pilot.
I thought the Virgil Swann character was created for the Smallville (tv show) universe and wasn't Superman (comics) canon. Is this Supergirl show supposed to be set in the same universe as Smallville (tv show)? Because from what you've said about Kara's character, that doesn't really fit. Unless they've finally found her again (if they hadn't during the course of that show). / Really have to finish watching S9 and S10 of Smallville / Kara isn't raised by the Kents, so I doubt he'd be cast as Jonathan.
I really thought that they came up with a great guest starring role for Dean on Smallville (Vandal Savage) because for us LnC fans, we could picture our Clark willing to do almost anything to save his Lois. I loved those parallels.
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
I don't know much about the new show. From reading a bit today, it seems the writers and producers are comic fans and involved in "The Flash", which has been having a real success with casting nods to previous versions. Kara herself is sometimes older, sometimes younger than Superman, and colorblind casting has apparently already led to changes in some of the characters. BTW: Calista Flockhart as Cat Grant?! I have no clue how this show is going to play out, but "The Flash" turned out to be good, so I'm hoping for the best.
Additional speculation: Dean and Helen as Kara's foster parents.
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I think Dean's going to play Zor-El. They don't say who he'll be, and as far as I can tell they're keeping in a closely guarded secret, so that's who I'm speculations he's going to be,
CLARK: No. I'm just worried I'm a jinx. JONATHAN: A jinx? CLARK: Yeah. Let's face it, ever since she's known me, Lois's been kidnapped, frozen, pushed off buildings, almost stabbed, poisoned, buried alive and who knows what else, and it's all because of me. -"Contact" (You're not her jinx, you're her blessing.)
Waiting with great interest to see what this show is like, and if I can incorporate any of it into my Supergirl Returns series. If it's a long way off what I've written so far, I may end up having it in the background of future stories as a Superman Foundation authorised TV show (naturally not using her real secret identity etc.), with a running joke about how inaccurate it all is.
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I must of blinked. He was in a background shot, wasn't he?
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
Starting at 27 sec. or so for no more than a blink.
Oh, there he is. Just have to work the pause button super quickly.
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
Uggghhh...is this going to be as bad as that promo was? Calista is certainly as annoying as she was in Ally McBeal. It felt as lightweight as "Not Another Teen Movie"...but they were serious. I hold out hope for the guy from Smash...he at least seemed likeable.
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Uggghhh...is this going to be as bad as that promo was? Calista is certainly as annoying as she was in Ally McBeal. It felt as lightweight as "Not Another Teen Movie"...but they were serious.
Really? I didn't think it was too bad, except that Kara can't keep a secret.
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I hold out hope for the guy from Smash...he at least seemed likeable.
No idea who that is.
LATER: AND that they've given Kara Clark's life, including his associates, his career, and his glasses.
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VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
Uggghhh...is this going to be as bad as that promo was? Calista is certainly as annoying as she was in Ally McBeal. It felt as lightweight as "Not Another Teen Movie"...but they were serious. I hold out hope for the guy from Smash...he at least seemed likeable.
I agree. Devil wears Prada-cheap version* + your average teenage movie on (super)steroids. The leading actress puts too much emphasis in her acting, it's irritating... *: Calista, drop the botox! Boy, why people in the showbiz can't resolve to age gracefully?!
RJS, do you have super vision, or what? Must be a "Kansas" thing...
Jeremy Jordon (after searching for him online...couldn't remember his last name earlier). Looks like he's Kara's good friend or boyfriend...the guy in all of the scenes with her trying on new outfits and capes. He's a Broadway kid...was in Newsies. He was great in Smash - 2nd season, where that show really hit its stride (before cancellation!). The scenes with him in the trailer were they only ones I enjoyed, along with the military thing (Bureau 39?). Chyler Leigh (had to look up her last name, too) gets cast in a ton of stuff, but never really delivers...Oooh, I just looked her up in IMDB - she was in Not Another Teen Movie! Calista Flockhart is chewing up the scenery like she's Meryl Streep in The Devil Wears Prada.
Melissa was weak in Glee - blame her or the roll? - she looked like a stronger actor in this trailer. But what is the focus of this show? Her whining about wanting to do more for the world while being unappreciated and belittled at work? Her being a strong, powerful, feminist icon saving the world? Her balancing work, superwork, and life with her boyfriend? (Ooops...guess not...I just looked it up - Jeremy Jordon is apparently Winslow Schott, so that's not destined to work out so well!)
I wanted this to be good...really, I did. But I did not particularly enjoy this trailer.
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Sorry to disagree, but I really like the look of this - my impression is that they're showing her at the very beginning, when she's still figuring out what she can do and learning to use her powers effectively. For example, it looks like she's using excessive force and being very careless about ricochets in some scenes, and I suspect that both will cause her serious problems. It doesn't look like we're getting a "training with Superman" montage, which is a real shame.
Is it just me, or does she sound and look a lot like Emily Bett Rickards, Felicity Smoak in Arrow?
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Looking up the characters I discovered that the guy running the anti-alien organisation is Hank Henshaw, who in the comics eventually becomes the evil cyborg Superman.
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I just found the time to watch it and man, it got me teary-eyed watching it. I think this is the first time that I got teary-over Supergirl. I was going to give away/toss out my Supergirl shirt (it's just the shield with Supergirl on the back, and it didn't feel like it made as much sense now that I have a little Supergirl of my own) but now I think I'll have to see if I fit in it properly.
CLARK: No. I'm just worried I'm a jinx. JONATHAN: A jinx? CLARK: Yeah. Let's face it, ever since she's known me, Lois's been kidnapped, frozen, pushed off buildings, almost stabbed, poisoned, buried alive and who knows what else, and it's all because of me. -"Contact" (You're not her jinx, you're her blessing.)
A writer's job is to think of new plots and create characters who stay with you long after the final page has been read. If that mission is accomplished than we have done what we set out to do, which is to entertain and hopefully educate.
Just saw the Saturday Night Live spoof trailer for a Black Widow movie - there are some startling similarities
Yes! This is exactly what I was trying to express! I really hope that the show turns out to have a more substantial feeling than the trailer. I think The Flash has found the perfect tone.
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The preview interested me enough to want to check the show out, but even if I decided that I didn't really like the show, I'd probably still end up watching anyway.
I just watched it. Dean was in it for maybe a minute, but didn't even have one line. I liked it better than the trailer but wasn't blown away by it. I'll give the series a try and hope it finds its voice. My son kept finding fault with it, asking where Superman was. In the end, he concluded that I shouldn't have woken him from his nap. Lol
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Saw it on Saturday - it's fun, though suffers from the usual pilot episode thing of too much exposition. Hopefully it'll get into its stride after a few episodes, as The Flash did, without getting too dark.
It already has its own TV Tropes page which means that the fans are taking it reasonably seriously.
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Article from Deadline has a small hint that Dean will be in more than just the Supergirl pilot: Deadline interview
The relevant excerpt:
DEADLINE: One thing that is similar in several of your shows is casting actors who have either played the role before or have a strong previous connection to it, like Lois & Clark’s Dean Cain. Why do you like to do that?
BERLANTI: It’s fun. It’s one of the real nice benefits of doing the job that you get to work with people like John Wesley Shipp, and Mark Hamill, and Dean Cain, and Helen Slater. Part of the fun of making these things is actually that we’ve enjoyed other incarnations of them. So, it’s part homage and it’s part a celebration of the property, and a celebration of the characters. With Dean and Helen in Supergirl, we have some good storylines for them this season too.
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Relevant quote: Jenna Dewan-Tatum has joined the cast of CBS’ upcoming drama series Supergirl. She will play Lucy Lane, as brash, funny and beautiful as her older sister Lois Lane and strong, smart and successful in her own right. She’s got a history with Jimmy Olsen and she’s come to town to right a previous wrong. The series centers on Kara Zor-El (Melissa Benoist). Since arriving on Earth from Krypton, she’s been hiding the powers she shares with her famous cousin, Superman. But now at age 24, she decides to embrace her superhuman abilities and be the hero she was always meant to be. Dewan-Tatum starred on Witches Of East End, was a regular on The Playboy Club and appeared in American Horror Story: Asylum. She is repped by UTA, Management 360 and Bloom Hergott.
Jenna is Channing Tatum's wife. She has been a guest judge on "So You Think You Can Dance" several times and has always seemed to be a very likeable person. I actually think this is a pretty good casting choice. We didn't see much of Lucy on L&C or Smallville - I hope this allows the character to be more fully developed, and I can imagine Jenna bringing a lot of personality to the role.
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If anyone is interested, I've created a "Supergirl" forum. It's pretty bare at the moment, but the show still hasn't premiered yet. Hopefully, things will pick up soon. Feel free to join.
I was disappointed in the pilot. I liked the work/friends scenes (Jimmy and the work buddy), but I thought they tried to fit what should have been two hours of development into one. Also, the dialog with the villains sounded like it was aimed at an eight-year-old. I thought everything, especially the relationship issues (betrayal/reconciliation with Alex, the director of the watchdog agency suddenly accepting Kara) happened way too fast with too little time to actually work issues out. And OMG, Cat is over the top. I'm telling myself to take it as a comic and accept that it's not trying to be even remotely realistic (yes, I acknowledge the irony of that idea in any Superhero universe) or subtle. We'll see.
I've just watched about half of the pilot so far. (I'll probably watch the other half over the next night or two.) I want to give the show another episode or two before I form an opinion; I could go either way with it so far. (Unlike L&C, the pilot of which had me hooked within a few minutes.)
There is one thing, however, that bugs me. I realize that they want to let Supergirl shine on her own show, and so they must of necessity keep Superman off of it as much as possible. I get that; I truly do. (I don't like it, but I do understand their reasoning.) But what bothers me is that they couldn't even bring themselves to say the name "Superman" or "Clark." They went to contortions of language to avoid doing so: A few of their circumlocutions: "he"/"him" (without giving any explicit antecedent), "the big fellow," and "my friend in blue." The closest they got to calling him Clark or Superman was calling him "Kal-El." It's almost as if her cousin were Lord Voldemort.
Am I being overly sensitive on this one, or was anyone else irritated by their avoiding even mentioning Kara's cousin by either of his Terran names?
Bugged the absolutely living daylights out of me. And my husband. And a few people I regularly chat with on IRC.
At first, I thought that maybe there was some kind of issue with the rights, but they were using Superman characters - James, Cat, mentioned the Daily Planet. I think they used "Superman" once when he brought Kara to the Danvers.
I don't get it. And I'm underwhelmed by the pilot. I'll give it a few more episodes, but it better find a heart and soul fast (unlike L&C, which worked double time to flesh out the characters and make us care).
And, um, 10 bucks says James is totally in the CK=S know.
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"Being with you is stronger than me alone." ~ Clark Kent
"One little spark of inspiration is at the heart of all creation." ~ Figment the Dragon
I think my "Supergirl Returns" series is going to have a TV show called "Ultragirl," obviously based on Kara, where they have made some hilariously wrong guesses about her interests, secret ID etc. and she's torn between laughing and writing nit-picking criticism.
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Overall, I liked it. Yeah, there was a lot of exposition, but it was sure nice to see a superhero who actually LIKES being a superhero and isn't overburdened with angst. I hated what they've made Cat Grant into. Boo!
On the plus side, though, I'm loving the grown-up and yummy version of James Olsen. It feels wrong to have lustful thoughts about Jimmy, but here I am.
Lois: You know, I have a funny feeling that you didn't tell me your biggest secret.
Clark: Well, just to put your little mind at ease, Lois, you're right. Ides of Metropolis
Sue, on behalf of grown women everywhere, I hereby absolve you of any misplaced guilt over lustful thoughts about this James Olsen. He's all grown up now (not Jimmy anymore), a Pulitzer Prize winner, and entirely lust-worthy. Plus, I loved his attitude toward Cat. ("Her loss.")
I just watched the pilot (finally) and I have to say, it's not half as bad as I was expecting. (I've decided keeping my expectations low is the key for everything, barring the upcoming Star Wars that I'm trying and failing to remain neutral about.) It's got a bit more life to it than most of the superhero movies we've been getting as of late, and I'm honestly getting so tired of the whole my-life-was-awful-so-I-became-a-superhero motif. Too much angst and tragedy— and this coming from someone who LOVES angst and tragedy!!!
I think it has a lot of potential, provided CBS doesn't pull the plug early. The gal that plays Kara is downright adorable, and her enthusiasm is contagious. I'm anxious to see how they bring her adoptive family in more— I'm already loving everything they've done with the sister, and it's already one of the healthiest sibling relationships portrayed since I can't remember when. I'm assuming Dean (!! DEAN!!!) will have a larger part in the season to come, simply because there would be absolutely no point in showing him if they weren't going to use him, or paying him for that small a cameo.
The lack of mentioning Clark thing didn't really bother me so much (yet), because I think it was very strategic. They're probably holding off on showing/mentioning Superman so much because they want to go over casting and do a big mid-season/season finale reveal. I hope she at least knows that Clark=Superman, but maybe they're saving that for some fun reveal down the line as well. The one thing that would disappoint me at this point would be if they somehow managed to wrangle Henry Cavill into the part, because I do not want to attach the DC movieverse and tv-verse like that. Frankly, I think DC is at their best when they're working in television format, as their movies have been proving as of late (NOT excited for Superman v. Batman based on every preview I've seen).
So far, I think it's good, wholesome, mostly lighthearted fun. I can't wait to see where they take it.
And finally... yes, James Olsen is positively -worthy. I think I'm in love.
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I hope Dean gets some dialog sometime. He was basically furniture in the first ep. Surprisingly to me, hubby liked it too. He can't take Flash or Arrow. Strangely, I thought I would dislike this James Olson, but I don't and I like where he is coming from, being the buddy of "The Big Guy." Basically, I like the Berlanti & team stuff. It started out more rapidly than Smallville for sure. Is it just me, but I got the impression that Kara's workplace buddy designed the costume for her after she demonstrated her powers to him. She seemed inept in the costume design area. Also I like Calista's pale eyebrows on the super smooth forehead. I think it works for the role and is probably a make-up piece. It adds to her air of mean vacuity. Hoping for more. r/ Artemis
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That it does, Marcus. I've only watched the first 15 minutes or so (Guess what I did during my lunch break today?), but in that time, Superman, Clark Kent, and Lois Lane were all mentioned. We also found out that
Virginia(? - I think it was her) was right -- Jimmy does know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Clark Kent is Superman.
My thoughts on the show thus far: Although the program's creators might not admit to it, I suspect the target audience for the show is girls in their mid-to-late teens. Although I am enjoying the show for what it is, I know I would have liked it a whole lot more when I was in that age range. Cat's lack of depth would not have bothered me at all then. (Even now it grates on me a lot less than it does on some of the other posters here.) I really like the upbeat feel to the show; that seems to be something lacking in most things Superman-related recently. I am definitely interested in watching the rest of the first non-pilot episode when I get the chance.
I enjoyed the second episode better. I accepted that it's target audience is younger than me, so they are intentionally telling things that I would show and making nothing subtle so the kids can follow the story. I actually liked Cat 's speech to Kara about what Supergirl should do.
Now, was it just me, or are they trying to hint at some possible romantic attraction between Kara and James? Their faces seemed awfully close together in one scene and they both looked uncomfortable about it.
It definitely is not just you, HappyGirl. The two of them are definitely attracted to each other, and Win is none too happy about that. I think she see's Win as just a friend.
Yeah, that bit of unrequited interest was pretty obvious.
Now I'm thinking about James: Look, Kara, I'm not sure this is a good idea. I mean, I really like you, but you're a lot younger than me and I don't want your cousin going all Protective Big Brother on me.
Whelp it sounds like we have an explanation for Dean's character's non-presence. He's supposedly dead. I really enjoyed the little looks back, though and hope we get more of them.
CLARK: No. I'm just worried I'm a jinx. JONATHAN: A jinx? CLARK: Yeah. Let's face it, ever since she's known me, Lois's been kidnapped, frozen, pushed off buildings, almost stabbed, poisoned, buried alive and who knows what else, and it's all because of me. -"Contact" (You're not her jinx, you're her blessing.)
I wouldn't be so sure, Christina. This is sci-fi and he's working for a government agency. He could very well be undercover/on a mission to another planet/hurt in an accident and now has superpowers, etc. The family could have merely been told he died. After laying out that line about how he knows so much information about Superman, I doubt that's the last we'll see of him. Dean Cain is a hotter commodity than Helen Slater, and certainly a bigger tv audience draw (he is constantly showing up on Fox News), and Supergirl needs all the ratings it can get. He only has a supporting role on Hit the Floor, which was taping around the same time as these Supergirl episodes, which could easily be worked around since they both shoot in LA. Hit the Floor filming is done now, so his schedule would be open again.
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I haven't had a chance to see last night's show yet, but I would guess that there is always the possibility that even if he is dead, his character could still show up periodically in flashbacks.
Loved Monday's episode, "Livewire". We see it on Tuesday's because we record so we can skip the commercials. Hubby even likes it. I'm betting Jerimiah Danvers isn't really dead. I just hope he hasn't been turned into a monster by the DEO and HH and has to fight Kara. I bet there is more to his story line. r/ Artemis
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I just finished watching this episode. I am increasingly impressed with the series. It's nice to see Cat being fleshed out a bit. I continue to be amazed that they are able to have such good special effects in a weekly series; although they wouldn't be particularly impressive in a movie, given the limited time and budget they have to work with, they are really making the most of what they have.
I'll put in spoiler tags any even remotely substantive comments I have about the episode, since I don't want to give anything away to anyone who has not yet seen Livewire.
I love the East egg meaning with Dean's line about knowing everything there is to know about Superman. I could also easily see L&C's Clark having a talk with his daughters similar to the one Jeremiah Danvers had in this show. Although I would expect Clark to convey the "Don't ever do that again; it's too dangerous" message in a much more understanding and much less severe manner. And having said that, I am glad to see that Dean is playing this character very differently than he played our favourite Kryptonian. I agree with other posters here that thereis a very real possibility that Henshaw lied to Eliza Danvers about her husbands having died. But even if he is dead, I would be very surprised if Dean weren't in most of the the next few episodes, at least, via flashbacks.
The first few episodes have done an excellent job of setting the stage for more than one multi-episode story arc. And I, for one, am looking forward to the ride.
*Possible spoiler alert if you haven't seen Monday's episode*
Well, now we have the mystery of Hank Henshaw's red eyes. He is really J'Onn J'Onzz from Mars and a shapeshifter. He said Hank Henshaw died in this dustup in Peru, but *did not* specifically say that Jeramiah Danvers was dead. I still hope for the sight of Dean again on the the show. CBS bought the next set of episodes for this year. Yay team! Berlanti has a magic touch. r/ Artemis
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Yes! I had heard a fan podcaster (Michael Bailey) speculating for weeks that Henshaw was really the Martian Manhunter, but I had thought that that was a longshot. I know that J'onn has appeared in animated shows, but is this the first live action depiction of him? I thought it very well done.
He did say several times that Jeremiah was dead. Among other things, he said that Henshaw had died the same night as Jeremiah, that Jeremiah made the ultimate sacrifice to save him (i.e., J'onn), and that he had died a hero. Of course, it is possible that he was mistaken or is flat-out lying to her.
Each week I look forward to the show a bit more, and I am delighted that it will get, at minimum, one full season. (I fully expect it to be renewed, but that's another story.)
I'm 100 percent certain that J'onn J'onzz showed up in Smallville I just don't remember the episodes (I know they were the later seasons of the series). I think it's really cool that he's the MM. We'll have to see what that means.
CLARK: No. I'm just worried I'm a jinx. JONATHAN: A jinx? CLARK: Yeah. Let's face it, ever since she's known me, Lois's been kidnapped, frozen, pushed off buildings, almost stabbed, poisoned, buried alive and who knows what else, and it's all because of me. -"Contact" (You're not her jinx, you're her blessing.)
I'm 100 percent certain that J'onn J'onzz showed up in Smallville I just don't remember the episodes (I know they were the later seasons of the series).
It's been a while, but he did show up in Smallville. Somehow, he lost his powers (saving Clark, it might have had to do with Brainiac or Supergirl or Bizarro -- I really narrowed it down there, didn't I? ). Then, he was a human police detective for a while. This was in Metropolis. I can't recall how he left the show. That reminds me, I really need to finish S9. Sigh. I just *HATE* Zod with a passion. This isn't anything new. I hated him back in the 80s in that Christopher Reeves film, too. I just dislike all Kryptonian back story characters. He lives on Earth now and has a family who loves him for him; move on, already. It's the whole nature vs. nurture argument. Krypton is his nature (gave him powers) vs. Earth is his nature (made him Superman).
I now return you to your show.
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
Totally enjoying this show. I tape it on Monday and watch on Friday. Do not like this Cat Grant. She is a stereotype. Hate that she knows who Kara is.
Love James! Yummo!
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This Cat Grant reminds me of Miranda in 'The Devil Wears Prada'. I have to admit that I like the LnC version better.
"Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad." "How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.”
I didn't like her at all at first, but she's growing on me. I think she knows that she's not a nice person, but she's afraid that nice equals weak. I think maybe Supergirl can help change her mind. I find her hate/hate attitude to the daily Planet and its staff amusing.
Are you guys enjoying the series so far? I read somewhere on Tumblr that there's a bit of a controversy, since Lois' fans don't appreciate how she's depicted (even if only by references from other characters' lines): they say she comes out as a bit... Bitchy :P
Are you guys enjoying the series so far? I read somewhere on Tumblr that there's a bit of a controversy, since Lois' fans don't appreciate how she's depicted (even if only by references from other characters' lines): they say she comes out as a bit... Bitchy :P
I think everyone that's said something about her have been in the "adversary" column when it comes to interactions with Lois. I haven't one thing come out of Jimmy's mouth with regards to Lois. I've only heard about her from Cat. I think Lucy in this version may not have as close of a relationship as ours did.
CLARK: No. I'm just worried I'm a jinx. JONATHAN: A jinx? CLARK: Yeah. Let's face it, ever since she's known me, Lois's been kidnapped, frozen, pushed off buildings, almost stabbed, poisoned, buried alive and who knows what else, and it's all because of me. -"Contact" (You're not her jinx, you're her blessing.)
Dean is on the next ep of Supergirl when Hank Henshaw explains what happened to J. Danvers. Next Monday March 21, same Supergirl time, same Supergirl channel. r/ Artemis
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History is easy once you've lived it. - Duncan MacLeod Writing history is easy once you've lived it. - Artemis
A writer's job is to think of new plots and create characters who stay with you long after the final page has been read. If that mission is accomplished than we have done what we set out to do, which is to entertain and hopefully educate.
OMG!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! Could it be too much to ask for some scenes with Jeremiah Danvers? I really love this series which reminds me a lot of the lightness and cheer of LnC. A positive spin on things is sorely needed in our difficult times.
There were quite a few moments in this week's episode would make folcs happy!!
Lillian Luther called Jeremiah "the only superman we need". Kara said"Supergirl is what I can do, Kara is who I am." Teri!
Sounds cool! Maybe someday I'll actually be able to get into this show. I've only watched a couple of episodes and found it mediocre, and during the first season schoolwork keep me from watching it much anyway. Eventually I'd like to give it another shot, especially seeing Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher are in it.
I've just started watching Supergirl on Netflix (and able to get my 10 y.o. son interested after FORCING him to watch a couple of episodes. ASIDE: He wasn't too keen on WW movie either. We had to drag him to that and he said it was 'ok'. Where did he learn female superheroes weren't worth watching??? Not from me! End aside.)
Did anyone else notice that S1.E5 "How Does She Do It" (the one where Kara babysits -- very badly -- Cat's son) was REALLY similar to Neverending Battle? I mean, come on! How could that episode NOT have been based on it? I knew that Lord character was bad news when I first saw him, but I didn't know he was going to be Supergirl's Lex Luthor. There's the tests and then Supergirl even has a confrontation with him ala Superman's speech to Lex at the end of NB -- it's basically the SAME speech. Interesting dynamic between Lord and Alex that makes me worried that Alex is going to turn bad at some point.
VirginiaR. "On the long road, take small steps." -- Jor-el, "The Foundling" --- "clearly there is a lack of understanding between those two... he speaks Lunkheadanian and she Stubbornanian" -- chelo.
Anyone still watching Supergirl? I like this show, but unfortunately the plot holes are horrendous. The 3rd season scripts seem to jettison characters along the way: Jeremiah Danvers's fate doesn't seem to interest the writers anymore. However, I admit I really like the Mon-El/Kara pairing: they were cute together, before they had to complicate everything. Hoping for a few more Superman sightings, though.
I'm still watching, but as for Superman-actor sightings, I think we're more likely to see Brandon Routh than Dean Cain on the show.
I'm hoping we get to see Supergirl's Superman again; I like Tyler Hoechlin in the role.
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I don't really like what they're doing to Ray (Brandon Rouths's character) on Legends of Tomorrow to be honest. He's supposed to be an actual super hero in his own right and a darn good engineer, right?
He was all of that on Arrow, and for a while on Legends of Tomorrow, but now he's mostly the comic relief and playing second fiddle to the neanderthal on the team.
As far as as sightings go, Brandon is much more likely to show up on Supergirl. He plays a character on a show in the same multiverse with a bunch of crossovers, so bringing him in won't cost that much extra. But to be fair, he was on Arrow before Supergirl premiered.
I also really like Tyler Hoechlin as Superman/Clark.
I also really like Tyler Hoechlin as Superman/Clark.
I would totally watch a Superman show with that guy. He was like a breath of fresh air. I loved that scene in the first episode he was in where Clark and Kara are coming out of the elevator and Clark has knocked someone's papers all over the floor. Kara tells him that he's kind of overdoing his Clark Kent routine, and he replies, a bit embarrassed, that it was a genuine accident. It was just so cute an exchange!
I am completely not caught up on Supergirl (I'm somewhere in the middle of season 2...)
"It is a remarkable dichotomy. In many ways, Clark is the most human of us all. Then...he shoots fire from the skies, and it is difficult not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him." -Batman (in Superman/Batman #3 by Jeph Loeb)