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DJ, I'm sorry that this won't be long, but I really thought that Clark's nightmare was absolutely horrible. It was brilliantly written, too. It was the absolutely worst kind of nightmare, the kind that is, in the beginning at least, not too absurd to be obviously untrue. It could have happened. Okay, I don't believe in ghosts, but I don't necessarily know that when I'm dreaming. And the idea that Lana called out to Clark, that she called for him to come to his bedroom, but then she had locked the door to his bedroom... very, very psychologically true. It brilliantly reflected the relationship they had had, except that the locked door doesn't symbolize Lana's reluctance at intimacy with Clark (because there had been no such reluctance on her part), but rather it symbolizes her rejection of him and accusation of him now, afterwards. He was the one who had turned her down and played a cruel game with her. The first chance he got, he spent the night with another woman.
Clark's horror at hearing Lana call his name, his horror at realizing she is calling him from his own bedroom, his horror at realizing that the door is locked, his horror at seeing that yes, indeed, Lana is back and sitting in his bed, his horror at hearing her plead desperately with him to help her, his horror at seeing that yes, indeed, Lana is a ghost, a corpse, bloodied and broken from the crash, and sitting here in his bed, pleading with him to help her and accusing him of killing her by rejecting her....
Oh, DJ, what a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible nightmare. This is indeed the kind of nightmare that you don't wake up from, when you wake up. It stays with you and gnaws at you, and it fills you with so much guilt that you won't ever know how to handle it. How to live with yourself. How to live with the woman who loves you? How to live with Lois?
Yes, I did say I wanted to read a sequel, too. Because when I read your first version of this, I thought that Clark should be more guilty and uncomfortable about Lana's death than he seemed to be. Well, now you've made him guilty with a vengeance, and now this is the question. Will Clark's guilt at Lana's death cause him to break another woman, too? Will his bad conscience about Lana make him cruel to Lois, too?
Well. Very interesting. Yes, indeed, DJ, I'm really, really interested in seeing where you will be taking this.
Ann
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Okay I'm so glad to see that you are writing something new! ^_^ I'm going to sit down and read this one again before reading your new epilogue since it has been a long time since I have read it. Just wanted to stop by and give you some love.
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I originally wrote a fun little nfic romp for my fans of New Beginnings... well, kiss it goodbye. Sorry but it was just too soon to get these two sweethearts together just yet. No, no, no!! (grumble, grumble) ok, if the Muse said it, then fine, because the Muse that came up with Supermen United has to be trusted. But can this little scene continue to exist somewhere - maybe an alternate reality? You know, a fork in the road. There's the if-we-have-sex turn and the if-we-don't-have-sex turn. Because the sex turn was too good to just get lost to history. it hasn't been beta'd yet Well, I know you have like eight betas, but if you need another one... Ok, I will admit I like the new epilogue. And you kept the ending I loved. And the sneak peak was very nice too. Freaky nightmare. See you all in a few weeks. mean, mean, mean...
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DJ, I definitely agree with what Lisa said! Please don't remove the nfic epilogue from the nfic folder. Please keep it as a sort of "what might have been in a better world" sort of epilogue.
Please?
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Hi Ann!!! DJ, I'm sorry that this won't be long, but I really thought that Clark's nightmare was absolutely horrible. It was brilliantly written, too. It was the absolutely worst kind of nightmare, the kind that is, in the beginning at least, not too absurd to be obviously untrue. It could have happened. Brilliantly written? Why thank you Ann. Yes, I thought the same thing... it wasn't too obsurd to be real. In fact, I was almost really mean and cut it off before you found out he was in Lois Lane's bedroom... dreaming. Because he could have easily still be back at the hospital with Lana... and have dreamt the the other stuff. But I thought it would be too evil to leave you hanging there... The first chance he got, he spent the night with another woman. Yes, even if it was fairly innocuous. That was why my muse decided to change the epilogue... as nice as the nfic scene was (or so I've been told ) Would our sweet little, boyscott, Clark, really have jumped into bed that quickly with Lois? And without "protection" to boot? I just don't think so. In the show they waited until they were married because they wanted it to be something special. And Lois has been burned before. So I just really didn't think they would jump into this that quickly. Plus, I would have had so much more angst to have dealt with in the sequel (did he get her pregnant) that I would have had to loose focus on his loss of Lana... and he really still needs to deal with that. Now trust me, I could have written the angst, if my Muse had wanted to... but she just didn't want to. She said it was going to be depressing and Lois would be upset with him through most of the story, and he'd feel even guiltier over Lana - we might drive the poor guy past the point of no return. So you can see why I shyed away from that. I think you'll still enjoy the angst... and this way we get to have a little fluff and fun too. Although, there is one piece of this particular story that you just might kill me over, but enough said about that... we'll deal with that when we come to it... ahem... Yes, I did say I wanted to read a sequel, too. Because when I read your first version of this, I thought that Clark should be more guilty and uncomfortable about Lana's death than he seemed to be. Well, now you've made him guilty with a vengeance, and now this is the question. Will Clark's guilt at Lana's death cause him to break another woman, too? Will his bad conscience about Lana make him cruel to Lois, too? All very good questions. I look forward to being able to answer them... Well. Very interesting. Yes, indeed, DJ, I'm really, really interested in seeing where you will be taking this. Thanks Ann - I hope I can live up to expectations on it... thanks so much for that wonderful fdk!! Hi there Jojo!!! I'm going to sit down and read this one again before reading your new epilogue since it has been a long time since I have read it. You might want to wait until next weekend. I think it will hit the archive next weekend. My GE told me she submitted it. Yeah! And - WOW - I can't believe you want to re-read the whole thing. I'm flattered! Just wanted to stop by and give you some love. Awww, thank you! Ooops, did I say that? You didn't see anything... <DJ waves her hand in front of your face> Thank you all so much for the encouraging words and lovely fdk. I'll see you back here with more, just as soon as I possibly can... -- DJ
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Well, DJ, I can't say that I liked it, seeing as it was all scary and gross and stuff, but given your previous storyline I think it's realistic, and you've got me hooked. As Ann pointed out, it's the kind of nightmare that sticks in your brain like a burr inside your sock. And I can see a little of how this is going to impact his relationship with Lois.
Speaking of Lois, won't she suffer some guilt, too? Won't she (almost falsely) think of herself as the "other woman" in some unguarded moments? When Clark tells her of the dream and of all the little, itty bitty details of Lana's death, won't she feel some (almost completely false) responsibility? Remember, Clark told her about Lana's wreck, but he didn't give her a moment-by-moment description of the events leading up to the tragedy. She'll eventually demand them, especially if Clark's dreams keep coming (and I'm pretty sure they will). Then she'll blame herself, and she can have a doozy of a dream, one that will match Clark's dream horror for horror.
Ann, please don't condemn Clark too hastily. After all, he's just spent several days being hammered by the loss of his childhood dreams and fantasies. Lana's dead, Lois has declared her love for him, he's leaving his home town and moving to Metropolis, he's taking on a new job, and that's more than a hundred points of stress right there. Medically, that's enough to produce insomnia and mild psychosis in a normal human. Add to that the newness and stress of deciding how to handle being Superman, and you've got the makings of a full-blown meltdown pending.
I hope to see the first real post soon, DJ. I can tell it's going to be my favorite kind: a bumpy ride.
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Oh, DJ, I thought at first you were going to make Lana's death all a bad dream. All I could think was... Oh, no!! Not another 'Dallas'. I'm glad that her sitting on the bed was a nightmare.
I agree! Please don't remove the little nfic romp. And then, too, he wakes up in Lois' bed. So that seems to say to me that they still had sex. Why did he wake up in Lois' bed? You are leaving it, aren't you?
It did seem the one section just before the nightmare just kind of suddenly got cut off. I was left shaking my head a little. Did I miss something? I am pretty tired right now.
Okay, now remind me of how Lois found out about Superman in New Beginnings. I'd say I'd re-read the story, and I will eventually, but right now, I'm stretched thin....
Glad you are writing another one.
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Oh. My. I think I couldn't forgive you, had you removed that yummy piece. This is definitely darker. Scaring. But I'll endure it for the WAFFy moments. I'm sure they'll be worthy. No cookies for you. Andreia
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Wow! Just look at all this fdk! I really didn't expect this kind of response from all of you. I'm so floored! And flattered! I can't say that I liked it, seeing as it was all scary and gross and stuff Well, can't say as I blame you. I was trying to get everyone's attention though. Guess I accomplished that. given your previous storyline I think it's realistic, and you've got me hooked Hooked? Oh goody... I really like what you think about what's going to happen with Lois. I do. Especially since I've already written about 50 pages worth of stuff. Very interesting Terry. Did I mention your comments were the ones that inspired the sequel? Yes, a lot of people were clammoring for one, but yours really pushed me over the top. So thanks. And thanks for these too. My muse can always use extra inspiration... Ann, please don't condemn Clark too hastily. Hmm, yes, good point. Although Ann seemed pretty upbeat in her comments considering the place I took her to. Terry I loved all the things you mentioned and was surprised at how many of them I've touched on in what I've written so far. I really hope you'll enjoy it. I hope to see the first real post soon, DJ. I can tell it's going to be my favorite kind: a bumpy ride. Hmmm, let's hope so. Oh, and I'll post just as soon as I humanly can. I'm waiting for Sue to finish Faustian (I'm totally devoted to her as a beta on the final chapter right now... I've read it like 5 times) and I didn't want to lambast her with a new story till she was finished. That and the fact that of the 50 pages I've written... they are scattered all throughout the story, all over the place. I still have to write the "connect-the-dots" parts. Hi Nancy! Oh, no!! Not another 'Dallas'. Oh please tell me you hold me in a higher regard than that? No, not another Dallas. And then, too, he wakes up in Lois' bed. So that seems to say to me that they still had sex. Why did he wake up in Lois' bed? Hmmm, you know, I don't ever recall saying he was in Lois's bed... let's see what did I say... ah, here it is: "I was in Lois Lane's apartment. In Lois Lane's bedroom..." Uh, bedroom and bed are 2 very different things. It did seem the one section just before the nightmare just kind of suddenly got cut off. I was left shaking my head a little. Did I miss something? I am pretty tired right now. Hmmm. Well, I didn't change anything at all except to take the little nfic romp out. The epilogue picks up and ends up in the exact same place minus the nfic scene. To recap for you. After Lana dies, Clark decides to tell Lois who he is. He comes to Metropolis to confront Lex, who gives nothing away. He comes to Daily Planet as Superman and gives Lois interview, then he comes back as Clark and leaves his shirt unbuttoned behind his tie. He brings her hand up and slips it inside his shirt where she can feel the suit. Then they have a conversation... which I posted the last few paragraphs of before posting the epilogue. Then there's the epilogue where he takes her flying and then takes her back down to her apartment. She invites him up... shares a drink with him, listens to him pour his heart out, and then he flys off to France for some pastries and promises to come back. Then we move on to the new story where he dreams about Lana and wakes up in a cold sweat in Lois's bedroom. How's that? If that doesn't work, then you're just going to have to re-read the last chapter and then the epilogue. Glad you are writing another one. Thanks. Andreia! Hello there! DJ, you right knows how to let one stunned. Yeah! Glad to know I got it right. It was supposed to be scary. Poor Clark. Guilt is going to consume him. He isn't going to forget it so soon. How terrifying. I hope Lois can help him to get through this hard time, and I hope he doesn't push her away. He needs Lois and she needs him, too. Yes, I'll try my best... This is definitely darker. Scaring. But I'll endure it for the WAFFy moments. I'm sure they'll be worthy. I hope so. You mean, evil teaser! What am I going to do while I wait for your next post? Bad, bad DJ. No cookies for you. Ack! The pointy stick guy came out already! Seriously everyone... thank you so much for all this fdk! Wow! I'm stunned! And now my muse is so happy, she's chained me to the chair and is demanding I let her talk for a while. So, I'm off to write! -- DJ
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Oooohhh...I'm hooked!
I'm a firm believer in the fact that God doesn't put any more on us than we can bear. He does however make us come to Jesus every so often.
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Yes, thanks, that did it.
Did I tell you how wonderfully real that Lana scene was? No wonder I thought at first her death might have been a dream. I was biting my fingernails that entire time (or as close as I ever come to 'biting' them).
More!! I want more! {But please do help Sue finish with Faustian first!}
Edit: Oh, my gosh, it's posted! Does that mean Sue has your story now?
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Hi Sheila! So glad you're "hooked". Hi Nancy, glad that helped. Biting fingernails good? All right! Yes, it's true, Sue is finished with Faustian, but no, I haven't sent my story to her... just yet. She has a lot of housework to catch up on and I do believe she's working on a little vignette for Faustian. I'll give her another day or two or three before I bombard her. Thank you all so much! -- DJ
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