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#46782 10/02/07 03:03 PM
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Well? What do you think?

What would you expect to happen next?

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Shayne, this is awesome! I don't have a lot of time to comment now, but do know that I am really enjoying your story and I am looking forward to more.

There were so many emotions tied up in this and I am hoping that Clark will do the right thing for Lois and Lisa. Of course he will. Hurry back! This was absolutely excellent!

~Sheila


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Wow. Just... wow!

That was awesome, Shayne.

No time to comment more but I can't wait to see what happens next!
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Creating a child was easy, being a parent was not.

The next few days were going to give Lisa’s father a chance to show what sort of man he was. For Lisa’s sake, Lois hoped that he was a good one.

Otherwise Lois would be the one who had to pick up all the pieces.
That was perfect! You've hit the nail dead solid perfect. It's easy to create a child. All that means is that your plumbing works correctly. Being a parent is by far the hardest thing I've ever done. Of course, I've never been elected to public office, but I do know a surgeon who's told me that it's easier to cut open a patient's throat than be a good daddy.

Where should this go? Clark should talk to Lois about how to deal with Lisa and listen and do what Lois and Lisa want him to do. It's too late for him to make any decisions for her. And he should scour the nation for all the women he's bedded in the intervening years and find out how many little Clarkies he's scattered around. And if he punks out on Lisa, he'd better be prepared for the Superman "experiment" to come to a sudden and screeching halt. Lois could write a story exposing him as a deadbeat dad, and his public image would take a tremendous hit. Not to mention putting Clark's privacy at risk, since Superman would have had to have been on Earth in order to father a child - unless he tries that "alien abduction" excuse. Nah! Who'd fall for that one?

Still not clear on what happened with or to Lana. Did they just break up or did something happen to her that made him seek out women while wearing the red bracelet? What will Joshua think, and what will he say to Clark? And who is he, anyway? Why is he in a wheelchair? Did Clark have anything to do with that, either by commission or by omission?

So many questions, so much more for you to tell, Shayne. Keep it coming!


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It just keeps getting better and better! I loved the confrontation. The alter ego seems a lot milder than Clark. That surprised me in a good way. smile I can't wait to see how he'll interact with Lisa.

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Wow, amazing!

I have to comment right away on something Alcyone said:

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The alter ego seems a lot milder than Clark. That surprised me in a good way.
Exactly! The man in a cape seemed a lot milder than Clark. And maybe, maybe he is milder?

One thing that makes Superman/Clark Kent so fascinating to me is that the person who goes by two names (really three names, Clark Kent, Superman and Kal-El) has to struggle with the question of who and what he really is. In canon LnC, Clark is the real person and Superman is the disguise. Clark is the person that the man from Krypton and Smallville is comfortable about being. Clark is the person that his beloved adoptive parents taught him to be, and it's the person he has been since he was old enough to be amenable to any sort of upbringing. Clark is the one he will be when he lets down his guard.

But this version of Clark has more negative than positive memories of being Clark. We were told one little snippet here which I found quite heartbreaking:

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Reaching behind her, she pulled a large basket of candy away from its place on the countertop. There was a huge scorch mark with a distinctive pattern radiating out from the center.

It was a pattern he'd seen before. When he'd first been learning to control his heat vision, there had been more fires than he'd wanted to think about.

He'd been thrown out of more than one foster home with a reputation for pyromania because of it, and he could remember with excruciating detail just how terrifying it had been.
Reread the last paragraph from that quote, and just try to imagine how horrible it must have been for an eleven-year-old old boy to suddenly start setting fires to things without having a clue about what was happening to him. Imagine, too, that he was living in a foster home at the time, with people who didn't know him well and didn't necessarily like him all that much. Imagine his foster parents freaking out and accusing the boy of trying to burn down his new home and kill the people who took care of him. And imagine what he must have felt when he realized that he was the worst sort of freak and that everybody hated him and wanted to get rid of him already, and that everybody would hate him even more if they learnt the truth about him.

It boggles the mind to think about it.

The way I remember the story (sorry for not going back and rereading it, Shayne), Clark seemed to be a rather good boy at the time when he met Lois and had sex with her. Terry might not think he seemed like a relatively good boy at that time, but I did. Regardless of what happened between Clark and Lois at that time, Clark seemed to be a boy of good intentions back then. I remember he was living with the Irigs. Perhaps the Irigs were much nicer to him than most of his other foster parents had been? Perhaps he could relax around the Irigs and allow his natural good wishes, that had been encouraged and nurtured by the Kents before they died, to shine through for a while?

It could be that what happened between him and Lois made him doubt his ability to be a good person again. (Let's not forget that the Red K had been thrown into the mix, and that it had unpredictable effects on Clark.)

How long did Clark stay with the Irigs? Did you tell us, Shayne? Well, later on he met Lana, and I remember well that you told us that she had been the only woman apart from Lois who had been important to Clark. But they had not been able to conceive, and Clark had dared to have himself tested to see if they were indeed compatible. Who put him up to laying himself bare like that?

And then Lana disappeared out of his life. What happened? Did she just get tired of him? Did she leave him because she wanted children? Or was her fate more sinister? I've been getting the feeling that she's dead. Is it possible that Clark caused her death somehow?

After Lana disappeared out of his life, there was little hope or goodness left in Clark. Did he become a ruthless businessman and a swindler only after he had lost Lana?

But when the Superman experiment was proposed to him, and when he accepted it, he was forced to become a person who only did good things. At least when he was being Superman. Is it possible that he is channeling most of his own goodness into his Superman persona, whereas Clark Kent is the one who has become hardened into a smooth and ruthless businessman?

Absolutely fascinating! And of course, when it comes to this part, I loved the revelation. I particularly loved that Clark - Superman - accepted that Lisa was his child when he understood that she was setting things on fire just like he himself had done at that age. But Clark panicked and fled the scene when he understood that he had fathered a child.

Now what will happen? Clark can't have failed to notice how poor Lois was, compared to his own life of opulence. Yet Lois was the one who had taken care of Lisa, while Clark had done nothing for his daughter. What is Clark going to do about that?

And what will happen when Clark - Superman - and Lisa meet for the first time, when Lisa is awake and knows what is happening?

Please come back soon with more, Shayne!

Ann

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Hi Shayne,

I'm more intrigued with this story with every part. smile

There are many questions which still need answered and I'm not sure how much patience we're going to need before we have the whole story. However, having read your stories before, I guess we're going to have to wait.

But I can do that. I am a patient person! Just, please, don't keep us waiting too long for the next part. wink

Yours Jenni

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I'm suspecting that it is the Red K that made conception possible which is why Lana never conceived and why there will be no other "little Clarkies" out there to be found. Sounds like he stayed away from it once he realized that the Red K affected his personality/inhibitions. Must have affected his little swimmer's rejection of mere human's eggs. goofy


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Fascinating story so far, Shayne. This is an interesting alternate path to the universe of Alt Clark.

I'll probably be commenting sporadically. Life is getting hairy again, but I'll do my best to leave feedback as often as I can.

Nan


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Just catching up, Shayne. Very intriguing; I'm looking forward to more!


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Wow. He was hit with a bomb shell. I think you captured his shock quite well. I am looking forward to the rest of the story. Wonderful job Shayne. I hope your back is better today also. Laura


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Ann, I love your insights and your almost surgical analysis of this story. It's almost as if you have an "in" with Shayne that the rest of us don't.

I'd like to clarify something, if I may. Ann wrote:

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The way I remember the story (sorry for not going back and rereading it, Shayne), Clark seemed to be a rather good boy at the time when he met Lois and had sex with her. Terry might not think he seemed like a relatively good boy at that time, but I did.
It's not that I think he was a "bad boy" when he met Lois, but he did father a child. Yes, he was under the influence of red K at the time, and yes, Lois was drunk too, and yes, she's the one who came on to him first, and yes, he didn't know about Lisa, but even though I don't think he was a "bad boy" then, he still has a responsibility now to his daughter. He can't be blamed for not taking care of her before now, because he didn't know she existed, nor did he even suspect that she could exist. And he didn't even remember Lois's name! It's a difficult situation to face, but a person's true character only shows up when the pressure is on. That's when the choices we make are the most important, and that's when our true priorities are revealed.

I'm rooting for both of them, Shayne. I just think there might be a little too much negative history for them to be more than friends. Of course, it's your story, so you tell us what happens and we'll cheer and sigh with each turn of the screw.


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Your back is troubling you, Shayne? Sorry to hear that. I have to tell you I'm so anxiously waiting for more of your story!

You asked us what we think should happen next? Well, the one who doesn't know what has happened between Superman and Lois is Lisa. Lois should tell her. And Clark should spend some time really asking himself how the fact that he has fathered a child should impact on his life. Should he go on as before? Being a ruthless businessman most of the time and a do-gooder in spandex and a cape in his spare time? Should he keep living in isolation, with only Joshua as a compainon? Or should he try - really try - to let Lisa into his world? Is he ready to show her who he is? Is he willing to try to change his ways and be the one the Kents' wanted him to be, for their sake and Lisa's?

And will he dare to offer himself to Lois? And what changes and sacrifices is he willing to make for her sake?

Wow! I so want to see the rest of it. So, eh, just so you know, I'll keep eagerly waiting for Family Hour 8....

Ann

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Where's part 8? mecry It's almost the weekend and I won't have time to check for updates again until Monday!!! wildguy wildguy


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I'm doing research. My almost-12 niece is spending the evening. I get a reminder of what it's like to be 12 and a girl (not that I ever knew). smile

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I've been following this story avidly all along, so I thought I should just be good for once and say so. laugh Your stories always have a darker, edgier feel to them, Shayne. It's what makes them so intriguing. thumbsup


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“No! But I was really mad and I wanted to kick him between the legs and pull his nose off and put out his eyes with a freshly sharpened pencil and disembowel him with a dull letter opener and strangle him with his own intestines but I stopped myself just in time!”
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Otherwise Lois would be the one who had to pick up all the pieces.
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