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FDK goes here . Revised posting schedule [ET]: Monday: Chapters 32 and 33, 5-6pm Wednesday: Chapters 34 and 35, either 3-4pm or after 10pm but probably earlier Friday: Chapters 36 and 37, 3-4pm Thanks . Carol
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Just when I wanted to sit down and do some writing of my own. The sad part is, I don't even *attempt* to resist temptation any longer. I just thought, "cool, shiny new Carol-fic". Michael, to be back here with actual FDK in a little while
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This gut-wrenchingly beautiful. More, please? Michael
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Wait... wait... what just happened here? Lois & Joe... Joe appears to be the perfect good guy (although it's all talk, and anyone can talk a good game)... and Lois admitted to needing Joe as a friend... hmm. So will this entail Lois and Joe meeting alone together? or maybe she'd do thoughtless things like showing Joe the ultrasound pictures before she shows them to Clark or something along those lines. Clark & Lana... Lana clearly has no morals and Clark seems to be too unsure to do anything. His heart (Lana) and mind (Lois) are as far apart as can be. A few parts ago, you mentioned we'd get ample opportunity to be annoyed at Clark and I think it's already begun Nevertheless his indecision was written perfectly and very natural! They definitely showed Clark's struggle and I'm glad he was able to control himself.. for now. After all he can't just switch off his feelings for Lana with a flick. But I also think Lana's perfectly capable of using his moment of weakness against him.
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Wow! First I get to read four parts in one day and then... Whoa! Despite all the awkwardness, I enjoyed their setting up house together, even though the place seems to be a dump. But they are working together, getting along, which is certainly a good start to their relationship, wanted or not. I enjoyed Lois's interaction with the doctor, it is good to know she has a friend to confide in! I hope Clark will find someone too. I still think he should tell the truth the his parents but at the moment it doesn't look like he will. So Joe and Lana are finally back, something I have been awaiting and dreading for the last few installments... Joe is a great guy and his reaction wanting to marry Lois was less unexpected for me than for her. Maybe if he had been in Latislan, things would have been different. Amazingly enough, Lana seems very understanding. She is really willing to wait for Clark for the next 5 years? Does she really know it will be at least five years? I can understand her wish to sleep with Clark before they go their separate ways for now. But I am glad Clark had the willpower to stop. Of course while sleeping with Lana, he could have had flashbacks of making love to Lois back in the cabin (dream or no dream) and realized she is the one he really wants. BTW, who is the father? Natascha
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Lois stuck to the plan, but Clark made a mess of it all. When he is around Lana, his brain activity is zero. "Lois and I got stuck in another country and she didn't have a passport and we had to get married to get her home," "So why are you still married to her?"
"It's not real, but we have to stay married for a while," "You promised you'd never make love to another woman." [...] "I'm not going to make love to her, Baby. It's not like that. It's temporary." Stupid!Clark made various fatal mistakes. - He told Lana that the marriage isn't real and it was just to get Lois out of Latislan. - He let her assume that he and Lois never made love. - He told her that he intends to get an annulment. - He let it clear that the marriage is a ploy. - And the most important fact he didn't tell her: "Lana, Lois and I are having a baby!" When Lana finds it out, she's going to be sure that Clark isn't the father. What is to impede her from spreading it? "Can't we be together anyway - in secret? No one would have to know - not even Lois," she whispered. She lets it clear that she has no moral. "Does she know you're kissing me like this? Like your life depends on it?" She kissed me again, her hands holding my face.
When she finally pulled back, she spoke again. "Did you tell her you were going to kiss me like that?" It seems awfully a threat. I'm sure she will make Lois and Clark's lives a hell. Andreia
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I must admit I felt slightly cheated when I read the parts from yesterday. It's not like I didn't like reading about LnC working on their new home or going shopping, but somehow I missed getting the answers to the many questions. I still don't have them, at least not all of them, but we're getting there, I'm sure. At least I know now how Joe and Lana take the news. You're scaring me, though. What do you mean with this: As I mentioned in fdk, there is one MAJOR difference in this Clark's history that hasn't been explored yet. It's been hinted at [small hints, granted], but so far no one's caught any of them [but I wouldn't really have expected it either]. There will be a couple bigger ones before the difference is revealed, but I doubt anyone will guess what it is, even then. Of course, there is the fact that this Clark already knows he's an alien (unlike the Russian-experiment hypothesis from the show), but somehow I doubt that this is what you're referring to. Still, the question remains: How does he know? The other idea that I got into my head is clearly unthinkable, but it fits with your expectation that nobody will guess what it is. I just hope you didn't make Lana be Clark's soulmate for real. Another thing that got me really worried was Andreia's FDK. She's right with her analysis of Clark's brain being out of order while he's with Lana, that's for sure. And I can so imagine her trying to make things difficult for Lois and Clark, it just seems to be in her nature. And what about her obvious attempt to get Clark into bed (or wherever, I doubt she'd be choosy about the actual place it takes place)? She didn't hope to get pregnant so Clark would have to marry her and divorce Lois, did she? By the way, I couldn't resist and used a due-date calculator on Lois' case. According to it, her last period must have started on October 20th, and if the child was sired on October 31st - wouldn't that be a little early in the cycle? On the other hand, these little critters do have a certain life expectancy of up to a week. Of course, that means Clark is definitely not the father - unless the child develops super-fast. We'll see about that, though. Another thing I'm wondering about: Doesn't Clark have the tendency to float in his sleep? Shouldn't Lois notice sooner or later? And when will Superman enter the picture? /me is off to re-read some stuff to find more clues about Clark's past (Maybe I'll even start a list...)
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My heart almost broke when Clark had to tell Lana that he was married to Lois. I felt so extremely sorry for him. For all of that, I agree with the other posters. Clark's behaviour is... un-Clark-like, perhaps? Not that different writers don't have the right to their own take on Clark. That is one of the joys of these boards. But I have to repeat Lara's worries. Is it possible that Lana is in fact Clark's soulmate???? I was slightly less fascinated when I read parts 28 and 29, but now I'm totally riveted again, Carol! Ann
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Not my favorite chapters for reasons everyone else has gone over........ however.... Lana and Clark's conversation reminds me of the end of S3... the emotions seem to parallel a lot... and that worries me for the prospects of a happy Lois and Clark ending.
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Okay, after some serious re-reading, I found several interesting facts:
1) Jonathan was in the Navy. 2) When it comes to Clark and girls, Jonathan gets bad-tempered. He doesn't want Clark to make love to Lana (or any other girl, for that matter). 3) The last time Clark had been sick (before the incident that ended in the cabin), he was five - and out stargazing with Jonathan. => Kryptonite? 4)Oh, and this little tidbit: Nothing can hurt him, but when Martha grabs his ears, they would prickle for days. => Kryptonite? Maybe traces of K in the mud Martha has her garden in? 5) Jonathan had had surgery on his back => Why? Or was it simply his excuse for being away from the farm for some time? Special agent Kent on the case?
You didn't make Jonathan and/or Martha into government agents, did you? They sure did watch Clark well, even noticing that 'his first impressions usually were really good and had been since he was little' - which hints towards his telepathic nature. And they already know he's an alien, maybe they even know about kryptonite?
Nah, they can't be evil now, can they? Still, these things are interesting.
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Okay, haven't gotten past the Author's Note yet, but thought I would at least answer the first question... Bonus points: Bonus points to anyone who can help with this nickname:
"I know when it's due, [nickname]." What about Franklin, as in the Franklin planners? *shrugs* Anyway, back later--I'm off to read now. ... Ok, I'm back. I agree with what everyone else has already said. These last parts have left me a bit sad. I found Joe to be surprisingly noble, and I know that he and Lois have a past, but I'm sad that she wishes he was there for her instead of Clark. And to that effect, I wish we could have more bonding between Clark and Lois. I know you have warned us repeatedly about saga/epic/annoyance et al., but I'm needing some silver lining, stat! I'd like to see Clark's reaction to the ultrasound photos. Maybe that will help--then again... And Lana. Hmmm. She worries me. I don't think her actions make me immediately assume she is without morals, but she's collecting ammunition. I think where most of us were expecting her to blow up and rant, her reaction was more out of desperation. That is what scares me. Desperate people do some pretty ugly things. So yes, I'm scared. Here's to hoping LnC have some fun soon! ~s
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Hm, the nickname thing. This is probably too obscure, but does anyone remember Simon? I think it was a calender/smartphone thing back in the early 90s? (and that officially ends anything I know about technology. :p )
Clark...I just want to box his ears to Smallville and back. Mr. Clana broke practically all the rules about the story, and really? Lana be discreet about anything she's not supposed to know? Since when has that ever happened. :rolleyes:
As for Clark and the history thing, I wonder if it has to do with his family or his origins...I've noticed you drop just enough in to remind us that he's Kryptonian and his parents are still around, but...it could just be me, but there's something off-kilter at least until we have a True Confessions of why Clark can dry the dishes with his eyes.
Sounds like I'm in the minority camp, but I'm not too worried about Lois and Clark at the moment. Practically speaking, they've never had a huge reason until now to get BFF with each other, in the words of my 13 year old cousin. So we'll just have to see what happens!
Great parts! JD
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Practically speaking, they've never had a huge reason until now to get BFF with each other, in the words of my 13 year old cousin. BFF? As for what is different with Clark, I'm thinking that maybe, possibly, it has to do with the fact that he was about to propose to Lana and he still hasn't told her about his powers. I think it is more or less official that Clark used to tell Lana about his powers. When John Byrne revamped the Superman comics in 1987 (or so), he saw to it that Clark told Lana about his powers before he left Smallville to travel the world and learn to be whatever he was going to be. In that alt-Clark episode of LnC, surely Clark had told Lana about his powers way back in Smallville? And in Smallville, not that I ever watch it, surely Clark told Lana about his powers in the beginning of the first season? Why has Clark not been honest with Lana about his powers, seeing he has grown up with her and wanted to marry her since he was six? There is a skeleton in a wardrobe somewhere here, I think. Or is it just that this Clark is even more pathologically secretive about his powers than he usually is for no particular reason at all? Ann
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Yeah - I should so be in bed... Don't ask why I'm not... As kind of an over all statement... I accept the soul mates canon of L/C, but I'm not sure it exists IRL. I believe that you can truly love more than one person in your life. That if that first true/real love relationship ends - for whatever reason - you *can* truly love someone else afterwards. Or most people anyway. Some people can't or don't. That said, I believe that Clark truly loves Lana here. *If*, for some reason, the situation were reversed and he'd married Lana - his old friend from high school - to save her from a mad man, while in love with Lois, what would their/your reactions be? If literally, just about all that changed was the females. Would there be more understanding about wanting to make love - just once? About the 'as long as you're discreet' thing? About honoring his vow, even though his heart doesn't want to? That said, I think it's probably still a fairly immature love - it needs to grow and all that - and it would have [still will?] over time. Now... moving on . On the advice of my BR /waves to Beth/, I'm going to simply mmm hmmm to most thoughts about what makes this Clark's history different. Michael - See above. Given the absolute turmoil his life has been in, is that enough for now? Keeping the vow for the vow's sake rather than Lois'? At least for the moment? And will Lois call him on that? AnKS - I think Joe really is what he appears - a teenage high school jock, who is growing up and starting to think more seriously - about relationships in particular. I think you've got Clark right on here. Natascha - do you really think I'm going to tell you who the father is? Clark never mentioned 5 years, btw. Andreia - have I mentioned you rock? Seriously. You amaze me. Oh, wait, fdk... Yeah, Stupid!Clark about sums it up... As for the not telling Lois thing, I don't know that she'd really go for that - it might sound good in the moment but later... Lara - /whistles tunelessly and refuses to respond to comment about Clark's history or Lana's use of red-K lined... er, flavored lipgloss. As for Clark floating in his sleep... I've seen that treated so many different ways - I don't think there's any *one* answer to that one... Ann - Glad you're riveted . Hope I can keep it riveting! I think that's exactly where Clark is right now - see notes above... As for the Lana soulmate thing... /whistles tunelessly... Lieta - interesting... hadn't thought about that. Though, I probably shouldn't admit this, you guys sometimes pick up on stuff and I'm like 'yeah, that's it. I planned it that way all along... Uh huh. really.' Lara [again ] - those are some interesting facts and I'm itching to respond to some of them, but on the advice of Beth I shall simply whistle tunelessly again. That said, isn't Jonathan's back surgery canon? [Beth confirms.] Sonia - There will be silver lining - promise. /thinks... not sure when though - am too tired to think straight, but it will come, promise. Lana? Ugly things? Couldn't be? Jen - not a clue. I've got the two from you and Sonia and two more in PMs and I don't recognize any of them... [thanks to all btw]. /whistles tunelessly again Ann [again] - I could be all 'uh huh yeah that's it' when it comes to the Superman mythos, but honestly, all I know is what comes from L/C and what I've picked up around here [and very occasionally elsewhere]. /me then whistles tunelessly while pointing at Beth Thanks again everyone . More on Monday... Carol
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Originally posted by Lara Joelle Kent: 1) Jonathan was in the Navy. 2) When it comes to Clark and girls, Jonathan gets bad-tempered. He doesn't want Clark to make love to Lana (or any other girl, for that matter). 3) The last time Clark had been sick (before the incident that ended in the cabin), he was five - and out stargazing with Jonathan. => Kryptonite? 4)Oh, and this little tidbit: Nothing can hurt him, but when Martha grabs his ears, they would prickle for days. => Kryptonite? Maybe traces of K in the mud Martha has her garden in? 5) Jonathan had had surgery on his back => Why? Or was it simply his excuse for being away from the farm for some time? Special agent Kent on the case? Thanks for reminding me, Mellie. I did notice those things but every time I get to FDK'ing - nada. 1) I figure it was late fifties, and the tiem of the Korean war. No big surprise hew was serving. 2) Conservative? 3) Exactly 4) I think Clark is thinking figure of speech and his own knowledge of right and wrong. Although in light of recent events... He is quite the brat, actually 5) Thought that was canon. Originally posted by carolm: Michael - See above. Given the absolute turmoil his life has been in, is that enough for now? Keeping the vow for the vow's sake rather than Lois'? At least for the moment? And will Lois call him on that? Looks around mulishly. Okaayyyyy. /me kicks little stone on the floor. Looking forward to Lois calling him on it. Michael, who actually thought about doing a non-Lois-soulmate thingy someday after reading Carol's reasoning.
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Wow. I've been waiting for some more insight into how Clark thinks he might possibly make this work. I guess I'll have to keep waiting! I thought he might break through and impress me with some resolve when he left Lana, but nope, he just broke. He's so fragile right now. When's he going to get out to visit Martha and Jonathan? I thought about your nickname request. Not a secretary or scheduling program, but "I know when it's due, [nickname]" makes me think of that micromanaging boss from Office Space. IMDB tells me his name is Lumbergh.
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I had another think on the nickname challenge. A secretary... A well-known secretary... Do you know James Bond? How does Miss Moneypenny sound to you?
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Hmmm....
A lot of what I was thinking has been said here. Clark knows an awful lot about himself in this universe he didn't know in L&C at the same age...
The thing that stood out for me here, aside from how Clark went back on what was agreed and didn't think with the right head when he did see Lana, is how calm Lana was. She was desperate... yes... but I felt she should have been angry... that surprised me... And as someone else said... her desperation instead.. it gives me a feeling of insecurity, and a dangerous possessiveness. I don't think she is going to take this lying down... I was also surprised Clark didn't go all the way with Lana, given this was potentially his only chance for the next 5 years. And like someone else said, it didn't seem to be because of Lois, but because of the vows he had made in the face of god. Clark has never been overly religious that I've seen... so.. that's interesting...
While we'd like to think Lois and Clark are 'love at first sight', I agree with Carol... you can love another person in different conditions, experiences... and I think at this point in time, Lana is that love on which Clark is fixated, not unlike the parallels you could draw to Lois in the last episode of S3. You could also draw parallels between the relationship Lois and Clark are in as akin to that of Clark and Zara... I think over time, that love can change. Clark doesn't have to forget Lana, or ignore his love for her, but things can change... So while I 'hope' Lois and Clark can make things work and be happy little bunnies through this, I also accept that may not be how this story ends. Of more interest to me is the premise that their hypothermic dream induced mating is their 'cover'. I can't wait to find out who the father of the child is, and how Clark may react to this. I am also eager to see how Clark reacts to the ultrasound pictures. Will Lois show him? Or will he discover them himself... hmm...
p.s. Carol, my little man has just turned 18 months, and only recently have his teeth decided to make an appearance... which is nothing but stressful due to his medical situation.... I admire your ability to write while tending to young kids... I find it nigh on impossible (admittedly I have no support base other than hubby).
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And in Smallville, not that I ever watch it, surely Clark told Lana about his powers in the beginning of the first season? SV!Lana didn't know about Clark until the middle of season seven. The only person Clark told in the first season (or maybe the second?) was his friend Pete Ross. Carol, still reading it and loving it.
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Hey I heard somewhere... that Clark didn't tell Lana in Smallville either... she tricked him...I think. Sorry Carol for going off-topic... loving the story and looking fwd to the next 2 posts...
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