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Carol

Okay, before I get all worked up about stupid kids.

Lois put the pillow between them in Smallville after the whole mess. And then she put the pillow between them again in Metropolis saying Clark had put the pillow there back in Smallville?!?!?!?!? WHAT is going on here ????

PS: no snarkiness in here. Just deeply rooted worry.

Not coherent now....

Why can't those kids talk to each other?

Just a thought... why was Christopher crying his eyes out? Had he somehow sensed or heard what happened to Sam???

Ann

Just thought of something from a few days ago: Carol posted this before the whole Pop Pop mess
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And in the parts you've been reading there was that Bad Thing [Pop Pop], and then another Very Bad Thing [Revelation] and the reaction of other people to that Very Bad Thing and then a Could Have Been Bad Thing [Sam's heartattack] and the Might Have Not Been a Totally Bad Thing [???]. That doesn't help someone get over lunkheaded stupidness.<b>[

You're going to leave it there? I've spent this morning catching up on all of the chapters posted this week. I felt a sense of triumph and after surviving the ups and downs of the past week. Now, you're going to make us wait till tomorrow night at 10, to see what you've done with Sam?

It's nice to see Christopher talking and walking about. This story has been about him, and now, we finally see that he is becoming a character in his own right. The whole telepathic vibe that he felt makes me lean towards him being Clark's biological son. I wonder when Clark and Lois are going to talk about that probability? It seems strange that Lois does not want to find out who Chris' biological dad is (maybe she's waiting till the five-year mark winds down). I know she has no clue, but surely, she could ask people at the party if they saw anything.

I'm dreading their two-year anniversary. They are so far apart, that I hope another divorce discussion doesn't come up.

It also seems strange that Lois and Clark ask each other about Christmas gifts. You would think that living together might give them each ideas, but the whole planning each other's gifts, seems very awkward and informal.

Here's to hoping that Sam survives the next chapter.

I second the evil Kerth award going to Carol.

grinch

They was almost there. Then wham! Even the pillow shows up again. That dam pillow!!!
I think Chris knows. It's time to test that theory........
Prefect song for this is Mariah Carey I Stay In Love. Wish i can make videos but can't

What? 10pm? I know, 12am is midnight, but right now I hope that's just supposed to mean 10am-noon.

Michael

Wow, what a mess! At least our suspicion of Chris being Clark's son is now pretty much confirmed. Reminds me of this fanfic story where LnC had a son who had a very strong healing ability, but still it's pretty obvious Chris is not a *normal* child. Super, more likely.

@Michael: Ithink the [???] could be the thing with the kryptonite. Maybe. Although it might refer to something else in the near future (next four to six chapters is my guess.)

Quick clarification -

Neither put that pillow back between them that first night - at least not intentionally. At one point or another, they both think the other one did it.

And I did mean 10am to noon...

Back to fam stuff...
Carol

Okay, how did Lois manage that? And did it happen before, too, that Lois maneuvered the pillow between them by tossing and turning?


Michael <- not happy until they're happy. Or back to pre-pillow at least

Yay, it's 10am not 10pm.

grinch

PS: I'm beginning to think that Lois and Clark could ride off into the sunset if they'd just start talking and get rid of the miscommunications or wrong ideas that each one has. I mean, to think they're not cuddling now just caused a pillow moved. Navance is still out to get them, Sam may have just died, the least they could do to make us readers happy is cuddle. That's not asking a lot is it?

I expected Lois to be upset at Clark because now his whole family knows about Navance.
But she obviously isn't. However, HE really believes she blames him. And he doesn't know what to do about it.

That's a lot of the cause of the distance between them.

I suspect some of the rest of the distance is because of what I said in the last FDK thread, though.
Clark kissed Lois because she was there, she was a woman, and he was feeling low.
Of course now he's still feeling low, but it's a different kink of "low." So he's withdrawing from her. And Lois has lost what little security they had in their relationship.

In the previous FDK thread, Carol said this about who told the media about Lois, Clark and Chris:

Interesting. So if Clark is going to choose Lois over Lana, he is going to have to do it because he loves Lois and can't live without her, not because Lana is so bad that that he can't live with her.

And I hate that pillow! It reminds me of the sword that Tristan and Isolde sometimes placed between themselves at night to stop themselves from having illicit sex, since Isolde was already married to King Marc.



King Marc looking down unhappily on Tristan and Isolde.

Anyway, that pillow.... Can't somebody murder it for me?



Ann

Ann said this about one of Carol's posts:

In my opinion, that makes it a better story.

When I first started reading this story, I admit, I WANTED it to be Lana's fault that she and Clark broke up. I didn't want Clark to be the bad guy, and it's easy to villianize Lana for that reason. It's also been quite popular in fandom to villianize her simply because she isn't Lois but she was supposed to be Clark's first girlfriend.

But looking at it now, I like it that Lana isn't a bad person at that it wasn't her fault about her and Clark. It makes Clark's choice more realistic and more "true" to his heart. His choice, ulitimately, is less forced. (Although like I've said before, I still wonder what Lana thinks of aliens... That would certainly have an effect on her relationship with Clark!)

Oh, and I had wanted to comment on Ann's post in the previous feedback thread, which also dicusses Lana.

I don't mean to pick a fight with you, Ann, but I disagree with this.

I think that is really belittling Clark to assume he is that shallow, first of all.
I also don't see the evidence for it.

In the first place, objectively speaking, I don't think Lana or Lois are more attractive than the other. Lana tells Clark point-blank that she is worried about Lois being his roommate because she IS A BEUATIFUL WOMAN. Clark acknowledges this to Lois. Certainly Lana is blond and Lois has brown hair. But does that make one more beautiful than the other? (I admit some men have preferences, but still...)
Lois has probably fulled out some since having a baby, but Clark doesn't seem to think that makes her unattractive.
To conclude, if he was only interested in Lana's looks, there would be no reason why he wouldn't decide to "hook up with Lois" once he marries her. Because she's beautiful as well. So why not bed the woman he's with?

Furthermore, earlier in the story, there were these passages, So Clark loved Lana because she was good with kids. Sounds like a good reason to me.

And this So she got a scholarship. She's smart. And he's proud of her for that, and for what she wants to do with her life. Sounds like another good reason to love Lana.

After he and Lois got married, when he was still wallowing for her, there was also this
So she had been his best friend for along time. Sounds like another good reason to love her.

Let me clarify, however. I do agree with you that Lana can be spiteful. I write that off as an eighteen-year old girl who believes she was betrayed by the man she wanted to marry. Still, that is a problem with her.

And that's one reason why I don't think Clark and Lana belong together. I want Lois and Clark together just like any other FoLC. One of the main reasons why I love the show and fic, is because I love their relationship.

But assuming that Clark loved Lana just because of her looks is belittling him and a long time relationship he believed would last a lifetime, and had reasons for believing that.

YES

A much better way to discover Chris is half kryptonian than tossing a piano.

Gotta chime in here. I agree with a little bit of both of you, Ann and Sara.

This commitment thing here is a huge reason, IMO. Don't know about the rest of you, but it's pretty darn hard to throw away a relationship after multiple years of commitment (and I'm just talking about regular relationships that run their course, or even friendships, but in Clark's case, the Sometimes Crappy Things Happen To Good People aka life). Or a long-term investment in anything, really. You don't realize how much of yourself you put into something until it ends, and unfortunately Clark hasn't handled it well at times (probably the understatement of the week), and...I totally lost my train of thought because I leaned back to think and got lost in my complete lack of housekeeping underneath my headboard. OH, but it seems reasonable for him to take a long time to get over it; unfortunately, it's at the expense of Lois, and that's what makes him a dolt in my mind.

Man, I was hoping this Christmas wouldn't blow as much as the last one did...like they might actually care what they get each other...hopes and dreams down the tube to be saved for the AA group!

Great parts,
JD

Thanks, Jenn!

Yes, that's what I meant, actually. Yes, I do think that Clark is infatuated with Lana's looks, but his own commitment to her is more important to him than her looks. I think Clark is like that: when he has made a commitment, it is, excuse me for my choice of adjective, deadly serious. It is not something he can throw away or turn his back on. When Clark is pining for Lana, I think it is his own commitment to her that he misses the most. He is actually pining for himself, the way he used to be.

On the other hand(!), when Clark jumped on that plane with Lois, I think he made a choice between her and Lana, and he chose Lois. That is how I see it.

But before Clark can wrap his mind around the idea that he is going to be with Lois, he will have to redefine himself. He will have to say goodbye to Clark-who-promised-the-Heavens-that-he-would-always-be-faithful-to-Lana and accept that he is in fact Clark-who-has-already-been unfaithful-to-Lana-and-fathered-a-child-with-Lois. And he will have to embrace himself as Clark-who-loves-Lois.

Ann

I've read through this as I had time throughout the day .

This was something that's been key to me. When the Navance thing ends, if Lana is evil or dead or married or something, then Clark's 'choice' isn't a 'choice' at all. And I don't think Lois would accept that either - 'winning' by default. I 'talked' it out with my betas in detail - whether you guys will like what we came up with or not may be up for grabs but... I have to stay 'true to the characters' too. For Clark to have married Lois and promptly forgotten about Lana wouldn't have been true to character [as someone mentioned above] and neither would Lois accepting 'winning' by default, even if she is in love with him.

Anyway - back to the grindstone - need to get at least part of the next chapter pounded out before bed...

Should have time to respond more tomorrow.
Carol

I still think your Clark is holding on to his Lana fantasy so hard because he does not want to admit to himself that he fell for Lois at first sight.

I think it's time the cabin works its magic again... When these mules are in this stage, just being locked together away from everything will make them talk. Happily Sam's already providing their confinement... er... romantic getaway.

And the cabin would be the perfect place to talk about Christopher's paternity. After all, everything started there.

Andreia (checking the boards every five minutes ) Addicted, me? Nah...