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Ann It's definitely fun to learn som Australian English, too! As I said, our language has become Americanised the past two to three decades. Example - 'guy' is used much more than 'bloke'. But in a fic like this, part of the fun is to contrast the differences. So that's what I'm going to do - even if it means my Australian characters sound more like they come from the country than the city and it's the seventies/eighties rather than the nineties. *Lois* referred to herself as a 'sheila'. The incident with the unruly supporters was from Clark's POV so we don't get the benefit of Lois's thoughts. However, I made it very clear that Clark believed Lois knew she could handle them. There was nothing in the story to indicate that Lois put up with it because she had no other choices. cookiesmom Thanks for your FDK. The 'events' happened in Australia, so I'm not surprised you aren't aware of them. A small amount of research on the 'net would probably give you some answers - or you can wait for it to unfold in my fic. (This is probably obvious - but if anyone does know some of what is to happen, please keep it out of the FDK thread, so as not to spoil it for anyone who doesn't want to know beforehand. Thanks ) As for number of parts - my guess is 30. (This from the writer who told her BR that she thought AMH would be 18 parts!!) Lisamaree Agree with you on the Opera House, but my first impression of the Bridge was 'where's the rest of it?' However, Sydney is a beautiful city - the Harbour is spectacular and you can Sydney-ise the FDK as much as you like. Hallowed ground - not too much in the fic, partly because I couldn't remember the exact stage of the renovations in 1996 and partly because it just worked that way. I love it for cricket too - the Boxing Day Test Who has your support - The Aussies or the Kiwis? Terry Thanks for your thoughts Terry. Aussies have a reputation for being friendly - of course it's hard for us to judge if we are more/less friendly than everyone else. As with all places, the people are a mix - some are friendly and open, some are twisted and closed. I'm glad your friend ran into the nicer Aussies. I tried to add this trait to my Lois Lane in this fic. As for comments about Americans - I'm surprised they weren't said, but with extreme light-heartedness. Thanks for your lovely positive FDK, Terry. Corrina
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Terry commented: A good friend of mine visited Australia a few years ago, and he told me that one of the best parts of the trip was the people Down Under. They were uniformly open, friendly, and glad to see him. No one made any cutting remarks about Americans in his hearing, and he said he wished he was young enough to emigrate, he liked the place so much. That's exactly what happened to my cousin and he did emigrate and taught in the High School in Perth for 30 years! He now lives in Margaret River. (wine country like Napa, CA) Yes, we've been to Australia and it is great. We met Tricia W there in Sydney and had a great time. Looking forward to your story, FH. Throw in all the slang you want. I really don't understand footy, rugby or cricket. Keep it coming. It's a great story. Artemis
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This really was a great introduction. You see Lois holding her own against the "blokes," and you see Clark taking up his role of defender! I've really enjoyed looking over this--the Australianisms are really fun. Definitely makes me want to visit Australia! And it gives this fanfic a distinctive flavor that really marks it as unique.
I really like Lois's money move here. It's nice of her to do that for a stranger. It's not something many people would think of, and I think it's great that she does it.
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Yay, you posted! Readers, you are in for a treat! Plus, you're going to learn a lot about footy. I know I have in BR'ing this fic. I am sure Clark will however make the correct choice and support the Sydney Swans. [Wink]
Failing that, he needs to change codes and follow Union instead. I think I'm not giving anything away that FH hasn't already said, but Clark isn't going to barrack for the Swans. Who is Union?
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FH: In cricket I support the green and gold (much to my hubby's delight - he would rather if our son is ever good enough he wear a baggy green than some revolting shade of brown). Have supported the Aussie team since I was about 10 (many many years ago) before I even move across the ditch to Sydney. However when it comes to Union - Rugby Union for those unfamiliar with the sport that, in New Zealand, has more followers than the catholic church - my blood will always run black. I'm a devout All Blacks supporter. Rugby Union is similar in some way to American football only no ad breaks, not very much padding, no helmets, the ball can only be passed backwards and you score a try, not a touchdown. Wait till you find out how Aussie Rules is played - woooh boy! Is it a sport to watch! I guess one thing about Australia (and New Zealand) those of you unfamiliar with our humble down under nations might be starting to realise from FH's fic is that some sports are regarded as akin to a religion. In Victoria and South Australia, it is Aussie Rules - the sport FH will be focusing on in this fic. You'll also find a lot of down under women enjoy their sports teams just as much as the male-folk (but with far less hooliganism... MOST of the time).
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Artemis Thanks for your comments, Artemis. Margaret River is a lovely area. Deja Vu Thanks! And if you do ever get to Oz, make sure you come to Melbourne! Iolanthe Thanks! I don't think I could write a main character convincingly if he/she barracked for another club. Union is Rugby Union, as explained by Lisamaree. Lisamaree You supported Australia? Even when you still lived in NZ? Did you like a particular player? I'm a devout All Blacks supporter. As I hear it, that's the only sort!! You'll also find a lot of down under women enjoy their sports teams just as much as the male-folk (but with far less hooliganism... MOST of the time) In my experience, it is the women who are most fanatical. Hooliganism - I hear about footy hooliganism, but I really don't see much of it. I haven't missed a Hawthorn game in Victoria since 2003, and I travel interstate a couple of times a year to go to games, but even in Adelaide (they have the reputation of being the most feral), I've never had any problems. Thanks for your FDK. Corrina.
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In no particular order… Looking forward to hearing about Down Under from a native. So far, my knowledge comes from Crocodile Dundee and the couple of JAG episodes when they went investigating or something. I have to say, I got the impression from your descriptions that Australia is a much more macho place than Metropolis. Which then translates to Lois having to be that much more one of the guys and leave her sensibilities at the door and instead roll with the guys in the dirt. But maybe that’s just because of the first impression Clark got of a couple of hoodlums accosting Lois and she not decking them immediately. Dan Scardino is a reporter? Lois shrugged, her face cloaked with sadness. "We hung out," she said. "Yeah, I'm going to miss him." So, is that Australian for ‘they were rooting for each other’? "Not unless you want to stick out even more." The whole sticking out of Clark, the Yank gave me the impression that Clark must look to Lois and her fellow Ozzies like H.G.Wells must have looked to LnC. Including the difference in roughness and ‘distinguished behavior’. "Whether you're a drinker or not, you need to go." So, does this mean, if you don’t drink, period, you can just go and kiss a crocodile? Drink yours at the same pace as they drink theirs. Don't be conned into drinking any faster, no matter how much they goad you. Sounds like they either would try to get him drunk and have fun with him, or, if he finishes first, gets to shout again. The first one should be funny. Unless the beer is the Smallville Green. How come everyone knows Lois as Flinders, i.e. how did the nickname spread to the hooligans from a different part of Australia? And last but not least. I have no idea what went down in Melbourne in 1996 and am trying not to go google it. It was so much easier with NK. Google didn’t help there. So, sports event. Riots. Fire. Great bank heist. Great start! Michael
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Hi Michael Sounds like they either would try to get him drunk and have fun with him, or, if he finishes first, gets to shout again. Yep, that's pretty much it! How come everyone knows Lois as Flinders, i.e. how did the nickname spread to the hooligans from a different part of Australia? In the footy world, nicknames of those in the public eye become well known. Lois wouldn't have as high a profile as a TV journalist, but being the first female in the business would definitely mean that many fans know of her. So, sports event. Riots. Fire. Great bank heist. Yes. Close. No. Almost. Thanks, Michael, Corrina
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Re JAG: Hmm, good to know. Way back when it aired, they all sounded like Germans to me Michael
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This is interesting. I always thought Trevor Goddard (Mick Brumby) was Australian, but it turns out he was born in England and went to English schools. Here's what IMDB said: A light heavyweight, he fought 60 times and lost only once.
After pursuing a career in boxing, Goddard was invited to fight professionally in the US.
While Goddard's official biography listed his place of birth as Perth, Australia, and the year as either 1966 or 1965, his parents, Eric and Clara Goddard, of Bexhill-on-Sea, East Sussex, in July of 2003 came forward to state that Trevor was in fact born in Sussex, England, his date of birth was in 1962, and that Trevor's claims to being a reformed criminal from Australia were in a fact a fabrication. He was able to fool many into believing his London accent was an Australian one, and edged out many authentic Australian actors for roles.
Had a record of 1-1-1 in professional boxing.
His portrayal of the 'Kano' character in the Mortal Kombat movie directly influenced the evolution of the character in later Mortal Kombat video games. For example, in Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, Mortal Kombat: Deception and most recently in Mortal Kombat: Armageddon, the character of Kano had a characteristically English accent and personality, as exemplified in the Mortal Kombat 1995 film. He also did vacuum (hoovers) commercials in the US. Can't fool a real Aussie on the accent! There are some foreign actors with some supposedly American accents that are truly bad, so I can understand how it can grate. Artemis
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Wow - I knew nothing about the intrigue, I just knew he didn't sound Australian.
Thanks for that Artemis, very interesting.
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Came across this today and I'm hooked. (BTW, I looked and didn't find Aussie Rules on the archive. Not sure how that's possible. ) My greatest regret about my time in the (U.S.) Army was that I could have gone to Australia on a military transport for $40 round trip and I couldn't do it. The catch is that they guarantee that you will fly within a 10 day window. The timing wouldn't have been a problem the trip would have been in two legs. Bottom line is that I could've ended up in Hawaii for up to 20 days and I didn't have the funds for that long a stay. I'll make it someday.
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Shallowford,
Check the thread for the Epilogue FDK.
Female Hawk never posted it to the archives. I and a few others have contacted her about it and her reply has always been that she wasn't satisfied with the ending. Marcus is planning on compiling the doc. You may want to send him a PM.
SpaceA can be a pain. One time I was trying to catch a hop from Pensacola NAS to Dover AFB. But it was a no go. If you ever do get a chance to visit Australia, go. I spent three weeks in Sydney. Love that city.
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