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Thanks!

Corrina.

Uh... can we get a translation?

Ah, another great part! They are getting to a meeting of the minds and their futures.
I'm assuming that's a good thing, but I'm as confused as Mayson, but definitely not as snobbish.

Artemis

just promise me a happy ending, k?

It great that they are taking the time to talk through all of the issues and it was sweet of Clark to say that they (as Superman and Ultrawoman) should go out for coffee!

I'm guessing that there will be more talking in the next part and working out of issues and there is the coffee scene, with tons of people fawning all over them.

Good part. I liked the way Clark and Lois talked about her outburst and their future.

I will, however, cut straight to the chase.

Personally I don't think that Lois and Clark's love is necessarily stronger if they "wait until the wedding night". However, you have created a Lois and Clark where abstaining until the wedding night seems very much in character, so rest assured, I'm not gong to try to talk you into speeding the moment of intimacy up. (Not that it would do any good if I tried.) So I have been fully prepared to wait for the fireworks in this fic until Lois and Clark are married.

However...

I'm probably misreading you here, Corrina, but Clark's statement made me feel that he was scared of losing control to the point that he might actually hurt Lois during lovemaking. It has to do with the "difference" bit. Arguably someone with Clark's physique isn't "meant" to make love to someone with Lois's physique.

This concept - that a man like Superman can't make love to a woman like Lois Lane - was in fact the underlying premise of "Superman II". Here Superman shed his powers to be able to make love to Lois Lane, but when he realized that he had to be Superman again, he got his powers back, made Lois forget what had happened, and, we must assume, resolved never to have any sort of intimate encounter with Lois Lane ever again.

[sarcasm] Funnily enough, he was seen having sex with at least one woman in "Superman III" without killing her, so maybe he could actually have sex with all other women except Lois Lane. [/sarcasm]

Anyway, Corrina, this is what Clark's statement seemed to imply to me - that he might not be able to make love to Lois without hurting her. And if Clark's lovemaking may really hurt Lois, then Clark has every reason to be scared. Moreover, then it won't matter whatsoever if they wait for their wedding night, if Clark is "too strong for Lois", as it were. His strength isn't likely to abate just because he says "I do".

I don't think you meant to imply that Clark might hurt Lois. I think you probably just wanted to say that Clark was scared that he might not be able to stay chaste if he kept kissing Lois thoroughly before the wedding. But if that is all he was worried about, then perhaps a less strong wording would be a good idea. Perhaps you should let go of the reference to Clark's "difference", since that probably won't have any bearing on his ability to stay chaste until his wedding night?

Ann

Iolanthe

A translation - not yet. A part of that statement is probably going to be significant (I haven't written it yet, but unless I think of a different (better) way of achieving what I want to achieve, I'll be using this.) Thanks for asking, though!

Artemis LOL about you being confused. It is actually really hard to deliberately write something that makes complete sense to you, but no sense to anyone else. (I manage to do it accidently at times - ask my BRs!) I'm glad this snippet came across as addled.

Sarah Happy ending coming.

DW Going out together as S and UW was a part of the original plan, but somehow they got set in the habit of only seeing each other in Lois's unit. Thanks.

Ann

From the fic ...

Ann wrote ...

Actually, Clark's main concern is that it Lois's first time and he wants it to be special and memorable for all the right reasons. But he's a virgin too. And there *are* differences (physical strength being only one of them) which he hopes will not present difficulties, but, as he said, he can't be sure about beforehand.

They are being pretty honest here. If either of them had worries about him hurting her, I think they would have said it explicitly.

I agree with you that if there were an issue of hurting Lois being married would make no difference.

When Clark talks about losing control, he's talking about timing. As he says later in the conversation ...

They hadn't decided never to make love. They had decided to wait. The control (or lack of it) was about timing, not physical force.

I haven't seen any of the Superman movies nor read any of the comics. If my stories seem to allude to situations in anything other than LnC:TNAOS that is just coincidence.

I know that, Ann. You've made essentially the same comment before in my other fics and I've skirted around answering. Perhaps it's time to be more direct - if I were to ever write a fic where they slept together before making a lifelong commitment, (in American culture that means marriage) big problems would follow.

I understand that others don't agree - and they are free to write their fics according to their worldview.

But rather than having this conversation every time I write a fic, you should assume that I'll write that they wait, and I'll assume that you don't think it's necessary.

I appreciate you reading and commenting on my fics, Ann. As I'm sure we're both aware, we think very differently on some issues. What I think/believe is going to come out in my fics, but I don't write to try to change others' views. I write because I enjoy writing and I hope others enjoy reading.


Corrina.

Corrina, I want to make it clear that I didn't mean to criticize Lois and Clark's decision not to make love until their wedding night. It was just the two words "scared" and "different" that set off a chain of associations in me.

Perhaps you might focus more on Clark's ingrained fear of losing control. This paragraph described it very well:

This is a good reason for Clark's nervousness, and it has nothing to do with any fear that he would physically hurt Lois. He is just nervous about experiencing such strong emotions and letting go of his control for the first time ever, and on top of his nervousness about the wedding night he is scared of losing control too soon. Perhaps everybody but me got that straight away.

Ann

Thanks for the reply, Ann.

Actually, after I'd posted I remembered that I also wanted to thank you for this ...

A decision such as this has to be supported by character development. Of course, it's some help that they waited in canon, but, I'm aware that if they are going to make this decision, it can't run contrary to everything else I've set up in the story.

I'm really glad you think this bit worked,

Corrina.

Now, the smoke wouldn't happen to come from a Cuban cigar previously stored in a humidor in the penthouse office of Lex Tower?

Nice juxtaposition with the previous part. Especially considering how the last time Lois Hawthorn lost (or was the in 38?) and Lois had her meltdown and this time Hawthorn won and Lois and Clark reconciled

She's not talking about the Hawthorn game, is she?



Can't wait!

Michael

I've been lurking around these boards for so long now that I have no idea how to start posting without feeling incredibly awkward about it. I figure I need to just jump in and do it. So...

I am thoroughly enjoying this fic. I was up until 5:30 AM yesterday because I simply could not stop reading. At that point, I forced myself to take a break and go to bed. Now that I'm caught up, though, I'm practically squirming in my seat waiting for the next part.

I was doing pretty good with comments months and months ago, but I seem to have started lurking again. I'm emerging now to confirm that someone besides Ann read this as potentially indicating that Clark was worried about physically hurting Lois:
It was sort of ambiguous, and I decided that probably wasn't what he meant (because if it was, he would be refusing to marry her), but I did read it that way at first.

I'm completely enjoying this fic, by the way. My husband thinks I'm crazy when I start talking about footy.

Oh good, I thought I was the only one doing that.

And welcome to the boards! Post more, we love feedback!

Michael Thanks for the FDK, Michael. Your instincts regarding where the story is going are pretty good!

livewithfreedom Welcome and thank you so much for de-lurking! I think we all feel a bit awkward at first.

5:30! I'm so glad you're enjoying the fic. Next part is posted.

AmyPrime When I finally get around to editing this for the archive, I'll rethink that section and try to make it less ambiguous.

My husband is used to it!! (And he's not a footy fan.)

Thanks, Amy.

Iolanthe You usually see the parts first, Iolanthe! I'm so glad you're still enjoying this *very* long ride.


Over the past day, I have sent the wedding chapter to the BRs - it is part 47. I'm thinking there might be another six parts. Once I have finished writing, I will try to post EOD. Thanks to everyone for sticking with me.

Corrina.