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I think it should be "an M.P." unless you pronounce it MiP and do not say the letter. Hmmmm. I thought “a” turned to “an” only before a word that started with a vowel. You’re saying there are consonant exceptions to this rule? Oh, and thanks. It is words that start with vowel sounds. Thus you say an hour. In this case generally it is prounced as if it was spelled empee, so it starts with a vowel sound. Also, true. But an Alt-Clark (who didn’t have Mayor White and former President Presley on his side) could easily been taken in and had tests run on him. He doesn’t feel pain? How much? How long can he survive being exposed to that rock? How long does it take him to recover? <Similar things that happened to S in DC’s new story.> Or we could just point out that Bureau 39 shows up just after Superman appears, and if they could catch him almost certainly would drag him off to a lab and disect him like a frog. If he did not have a secret identity to sleep under things might go much worse.
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You’re assuming all this happened on prom night? There were plenty of nights before then it could have happened. Hmm, I guess you are right. His observation about Lana just going with Hank because he was more likely toenable her winning as Prom Queen caused me to think that. I guess I forgot that Lana liked to bounce from boy to boy. This Rachel died at 17. He was a year older, so it could have been considered statutory rape. So, best not to bring it into the equation at all. It just adds to the confusion. Actually, I doubt that. In many states statuory rape requires the victim to be under the age of 17, and generally if the potential vicim is at least 16, even in states where 17-year-olds can be statutory rape victims, there is generally some sort of sliding scale rule, so very few states consider sexual relations between an 18-year-old and a 17-year-old to be statutory rape. 19-year-old and 17-year-old and 18-year-old and 16-year-old maybe, but generally not 18-year-old and 17-year-old. I actually looked it up. In Kansas once someone turns 16 staturoy rape is not possible. Even in New York once someone is 17 it is not possible. I know Michigan has passed recently laws that make sexual relations between teachers and any student, even if the student is 18, illegal, but I do not think any such laws existed in the 1980s, and even if they did they would not apply here.
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Originally posted by scifiJoan: That would be exciting!
Originally posted by VirginiaR: By the end of the Smallville arc? She'll know the "truth" by then.
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John: Well, in canon it seemed like Lois always had some guy to go out with her. Of wait, they were the type that caused Lois to say "define guys", maybe she does have a point. There was whats-his-name the hypocondrac who stood her up for Luthor's Orchid ball. He's a "define guys" type guy. And Lucy did mention that Lois had more "interviews" than "dates" (until Luthor, who was really -- let's face it -- only trying to get in her pants.) Clark:Well, I am not sure if "recovery" is the word. I do not feel like I have recoered at all, I still feel totally not-super. Well, isn't "Recovery" in medical terms where they put you between surgery and your hospital room to see if you're going to flatline on them? CLARK: Well, in that case... I was more thinking he hit his head when exposed to Kryptionite the night before. Or am I wrong about that too. Hmm, can Clark get concussions when exposed to Kryptonite, my guess is yes. Yes, he could have gotten a concussion, but my feeling was that he tripped and hit his head at the beginning of losing his powers and that Martha went to help him (as Jonathan did in canon) while leaving the box open, thus draining away his invulnerablity while he was knocked out. Clark: I deduced that once Barbie showed up. CLARK: I've also find it's good policy to believe that Lana isn't telling me the full story. It is words that start with vowel sounds. Thus you say an hour. In this case generally it is prounced as if it was spelled empee, so it starts with a vowel sound. Right. Or we could just point out that Bureau 39 shows up just after Superman appears, and if they could catch him almost certainly would drag him off to a lab and disect him like a frog. If he did not have a secret identity to sleep under things might go much worse. Yes. That is true. Hmm, I guess you are right. His observation about Lana just going with Hank because he was more likely toenable her winning as Prom Queen caused me to think that. I guess I forgot that Lana liked to bounce from boy to boy. Yeah, I went a little overboard on the backstory for this arc a bit. Actually, I doubt that. In many states statuory rape requires the victim to be under the age of 17, and generally if the potential vicim is at least 16, even in states where 17-year-olds can be statutory rape victims, there is generally some sort of sliding scale rule, so very few states consider sexual relations between an 18-year-old and a 17-year-old to be statutory rape. CLARK: I like to err on the side of caution.
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I just watched "Green Green Glow of Home" and realized that one of Rachel's deputies in there is named Hank.
Was that factor an inspiration for the Hank here, or is that just a chance coincidence?
Hmm, that Hank was the person Jimmy at first thought was the sherrif. This will make things interesting.
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Originally posted by John Lambert: I just watched "Green Green Glow of Home" and realized that one of Rachel's deputies in there is named Hank.
Was that factor an inspiration for the Hank here, or is that just a chance coincidence?
Hmm, that Hank was the person Jimmy at first thought was the sherrif. This will make things interesting. Yep. That's the Hank that Lana married. 2 Points!
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Ooooh! Is this going to be another part about Clark’s exes? Apparently, it had been her own brother who had stolen her purse that summer before college. /imagines mugging and stuff/ What a *creep*. Max continued to borrow a little more money, here and there, to finance his fun that summer and a trip to Six Flags Texas with some friends. Is he now serving a life sentence for continuing to rob, do stuff, and murder young women at Six Flags? Would she have accepted his super status with all the enthusiasm of Lois or shut it away like Lana? Well, she was military, so she might have dug up some crystals and tried to vanquish the alien threat. Without being obsessed with Lana, would he have made the trip to Metropolis earlier, possibly in time to save his Lois from her fate? That would have been awkward. “Max is sheriff?” he asked skeptically, hoping that he had misheard.
Hank glanced around and lowered his voice. “Unfortunately.” They started with anyone who was associated or friends with the Irigs. So, the Kents? but Shirley had put her foot down. He had two, (three while Clark resided with them) growing children to care for; therefore, she insisted that his business and keeping the food on the table were his priorities. but dating while both lived under his roof was completely unacceptable, Can you imagine *that* gossip? “When Sheriff Harris had a heart attack last year, Max promoted himself up from deputy So, Max put some potassium chloride into his dad’s beer? and took over his dad’s duties as if he were Prince John to Sheriff Harris’s King Richard, not that Sheriff Harris could be considered a good King Richard in any respects.” So, getting arrested in Smallville is worse than getting arrested by a stereotypical Middle-to-South American militia captain? And Clark doesn’t even have his powers to protect Lois from the frequent dangers of prison in such an environment. “I couldn’t get a job in town, being Walt’s best bud and all, other than security guard at the bank.” But he’s the guy who took Lana away from Walt! Wouldn’t that show the world that he’s broken up with his best bud? Plus, wouldn’t the Town Banker hold significant sway over the townsfolk if they misbehaved like that? “As if it were my fault what happened to Rachel or Walt.” Yes, it is. Had he not taken Lana away from Walt, Rachel would still be alive. A stocky girl with straight red hair and freckles came up to Lana and slipped her hand around her forearm. Rachel’s daughter with Clark?
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“I’m holding the baby, Barbie. Watch it!” Lana snapped, stepping away. Aaaaahhh! There’s our Lana From the Smallville Smalls? “When’s her birthday? 1985? February?” he hazarded a guess. Umm… Shotgun wedding with Hank? “Barbie is Wayne’s granddaughter,” he told her softly, taking a sip of his drink. Michael
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Hi Virginia, Finally, it's Sunday and I'm trying to catch up with my reading. I didn't have a minute this week. “I told the sheriff at the time, old Sheriff Tinney, that I thought Max was full of crap… excuse my French. French? Sorry, I don't understand.... I don't see any French word here. “I… think… I need to sit down,” Clark mumbled. Did it have to be a car accident that killed her? he thought, as another wave of nausea and anguish flooded him. He must have made a face, because Lana took a step away from him. Poor Clark! And poor Rachel: why did you have to kill her? I like her! You could have killed Lana. “Barbie is Wayne’s granddaughter,” And she even has her first name. So, if this Lana slept with Walt, Clark's Lana may have slept with "her" Walt. And, may be, she got pregnant and had to abort. It's why she didn't (ou couldn't) have children. Secondly, he was an emotional wreck, taking every little disaster to heart or blaming himself as if it were his personal fault. CLARK: Who? Me? “Clark is dead!” she sobbed, dropping the phone and burying her face into her hands. PERRY:
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Hi Sidney! “I told the sheriff at the time, old Sheriff Tinney, that I thought Max was full of crap… excuse my French. French? Sorry, I don't understand.... I don't see any French word here. American colloquialism for using strong language. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_my_French Michael
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Thanks, Michael! I didn't know this American colloquialism. But it seems to me that, in the US, people have very strange ideas about French language!
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Michael: It must be the weekend! Ooooh! Is this going to be another part about Clark’s exes? Kind-of sort of, not really. I think the part you're looking for is #54. Nah, considering what he put up with, it must have been because she put out for him. Huh, what’s that? She didn’t? Huh. Okay, then he must be Kryptonian. They have the *weirdest* boudoir practices on that piece of green rock. CLARK: No comment. Well, that *was* how it started with Lana. Um... technically... it started with the bounce, then lead to that. True. Clark never cared enough to ask what alt-Max was up to when he last saw Rachel. Well, she was military, so she might have dug up some crystals and tried to vanquish the alien threat. Nope, she's good military, not psycho military. That would have been awkward. After he and Rachel had moved on. Yep. Those radical hippy types. Can you imagine *that* gossip? MR. HARRIS: So, Max put some potassium chloride into his dad’s beer? MAX: I plead the 5th.... I mean, no comment. I mean, you're under arrest for slander! So, getting arrested in Smallville is worse than getting arrested by a stereotypical Middle-to-South American militia captain? And Clark doesn’t even have his powers to protect Lois from the frequent dangers of prison in such an environment. But he’s the guy who took Lana away from Walt! Leaving Walt dateless for Prom night. Wouldn’t that show the world that he’s broken up with his best bud? Plus, wouldn’t the Town Banker hold significant sway over the townsfolk if they misbehaved like that? MR. LANG: I find it best not to anger the hoards... I mean, the customers, who might then make a run on the bank. Yes, it is. Had he not taken Lana away from Walt, Rachel would still be alive. SEE! Rachel’s daughter with Clark? Wrong dimension. Walt was stocky with red hair. Rachel was blonde. Not ravishing blonde like Lana, more dishwater blonde. LANA: Thank you for the clarification. From the Smallville Smalls? Thems the ones. Umm… Shotgun wedding with Hank? Let's just say Hank's more well-mannered than Walt. <a shotgun wasn't needed> Uh-oh. Walt didn’t with Rachel. He did with Lana, who was already with Hank at the time. And Rachel found out in the car and started to hit him or something. RACHEL: What would I care? It was just a first (and LAST) date, IMO. Oh dear. That’s going to traumatize Lois. Also, I’m thinking he realized this a tad late. Traumatize Lois? Why? Because he loved someone before meeting her? Or because all of Clark's loves seem to be danger-prone? Probably best not to introduce her to dead Mayson, then, huh? Ooooh! That can be interpreted as him not liking her *at all* or that *that* isn’t his Lana CLARK: Besides the female form, I also minored in double-speak (under the political science wing of humanities). Eeeeehhh…she’ll get over that one. Only takes a deserted island. LOIS: Tahiti? LOIS: Clearly! Or, maybe, kiss the stuffing out of her, throw her over his shoulder, and carry her to the Lexor Honeymoon Suite. LOIS: Well, he could try that, but I'm not going to say that I liked it. That’s not the romantic speaking. That’s her hard-up naughty side screaming for release. So, once she got her release, she'll not want Clark anymore? Yes. And apparently Lucy knew that. Lois. A ‘bad boy’ smokes, drinks, treats women cavalierly, drives a motorcycle, wears leather and looks good in it, and doesn’t hold a reputable job. Ralph on the other hand, he’s just a disgusting creep. LOIS: Oh, I thought disgusting creep was just a sub-section of bad boy. My mista... er... misunderst... er... Well, he IS bad! Outcast son of a ruling house. Married but on the prowl for new tail. Looks good in leather. Prime example of a bad boy. Alt-LANA: He never said he was nobelity! /draws picture of Lois in torn clothing, chained to a four-poster bed and Lex kneeling above her ready to claim his spoils/ There, does that help? ROMANCE, Michael, not HORROR, or GOTHIC ROMANCE. No, he probably just thinks that Lois looks like she’s ready for a repeat performance of the final minute in Rachel’s life. Crashing the truck? Ooooh! Kryptonite in the air? Possibly. Strange. I thought it was obvious. Well, they are WALKING over to the Irigs' farm. She going to get caught by B39? Yep, there goes his blood pressure again.
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Originally posted by Sydney: Finally, it's Sunday and I'm trying to catch up with my reading. I didn't have a minute this week. Yea! It IS the weekend! French? Sorry, I don't understand.... I don't see any French word here. Er... sorry... I meant to put an apology note at the bottom of the part for you. As Michael said, it's what crass Americans say when they swear. "I'm not swearing, I'm speaking French." :rolleyes: Poor Clark! And poor Rachel: why did you have to kill her? I like her! You could have killed Lana. Where would be the fun in that? Anyway, I doubt Clark would have mourned as much. CLARK: I was ENGAGED to Lana. EW: And? CLARK: <sheepish shrugs> Okay, you might be right. And she even has her first name. Barbie, as in doll. So, if this Lana slept with Walt, Clark's Lana may have slept with "her" Walt. And, may be, she got pregnant and had to abort. It's why she didn't (ou couldn't) have children. CLARK: But... She displayed all the traits of a rape victim. She stopped partying, she stopped dressing sexy, even to the point of wearing baggy clothes. She cut her hair. She wouldn't have done that, would she? Would she have?
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Originally posted by Sydney: Thanks, Michael! I didn't know this American colloquialism.
But it seems to me that, in the US, people have very strange ideas about French language! Americans also think the French language is the language of love and romance, and that nothing is sexier than a French accent (Why Claude had such an easy time with Lois). We think French cooking the best food in the world, so much so, we add the word "French" in front of foods that may, or may not, have originated in France just to make it sound more exotic and fancy (French Fries, French Dressing, French Toast). We're a weird mish-mash of ideas, aren't we? And when we don't understand something we say "It's all Greek to me." Does that mean that we think that the Greeks are smarter than us, because *they* can speak (and understand) Greek?
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"It's all Greek to me" was used by Shakespear, so it is not particularly American.
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Originally posted by John Lambert: "It's all Greek to me" was used by Shakespear, so it is not particularly American. Really? I didn't know that. Learn something new everyday!
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"It's all Greek to me" was used by Shakespear, so it is not particularly American. We use the same words (translated in French) when we don't understand something. I find it very funny.... because I teach Greek (ancient Greek)! We think French cooking the best food in the world, so much so, we add the word "French" in front of foods that may, or may not, have originated in France just to make it sound more exotic and fancy (French Fries, French Dressing, French Toast). I don't know what is "French Dressing".... I never went to the US, but a few years ago, I went to Australia and, in the restaurant of my hotel, for breakfast, I saw something called "French Toast". I didn't know what it was and I immediately wanted to taste it. It's something that in France we call "pain perdu": something you eat at home when you don't want to waste old pieces of bread! Not something fancy. So, 10 years ago, you couldn't find it in a restaurant. Now, I think you can.... for tourists! And you know, Americans sometimes use French words in their language: for example "déjà vu". And I'm sure I've seen other ones, on these boards.
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Originally posted by Sydney: We use the same words (translated in French) when we don't understand something. I find it very funny.... because I teach Greek (ancient Greek)! And I'm a Greek Classics Major. We, Americans, like our breakfasts! I didn't say it *was* fancy, but that adding the word "French" to it made it *sound* fancy. And you know, Americans sometimes use French words in their language: for example "déjà vu". And I'm sure I've seen other ones, on these boards. Yes, there are many French originated words in the English language, most of which I have to spell check, because I'm constantly misspelling them. faux pas, rendezvous, derrière. Of course, this means nothing, because I often misspell words in English as well.
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And I'm a Greek Classics Major. Good choice, Virginia! French Dressing, aka salad dressing. I, myself, like the creamy, red variety, which I never knew contained ketchep. Ketchup? With salad? Certainly not a French dish! Please, don't try to converse with me in Ancient Greek No problem, Virginia. I'll write in English. Or at least, I'll try to: sorry for the mistakes. And speaking of mistakes, the funniest mistake I ever saw was in the French translation of the show L&C. The first time I saw it, it was on French TV. So, it was in French, not with subtitles,but with the actors speaking French (do you use the word "doublage"?). In Soul Mates (I think), Lois speaks about the black teddy Clark bought her. The translator was certainly tired, VERY tired because we sometimes use the English word "teddy" fot this sort of lingerie. And he translated it with the word "nounours".... and this word means "teddy bear"! So, I thought that it was the black and white teddy bear that Clark won for Lois in Smallville. Sure, I was a little surprised: why did Lois want this teddy bear for her wedding night. It was cute, but.... And I forgot all about that ... until a few years ago, when I finally understood the meaning of the word, because of some fics on the Archive and on these boards...
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And speaking of mistakes, the funniest mistake I ever saw was in the French translation of the show L&C.
The first time I saw it, it was on French TV. So, it was in French, not with subtitles,but with the actors speaking French (do you use the word "doublage"?).
In Soul Mates (I think), Lois speaks about the black teddy Clark bought her. The translator was certainly tired, VERY tired because we sometimes use the English word "teddy" fot this sort of lingerie. And he translated it with the word "nounours".... and this word means "teddy bear"!
So, I thought that it was the black and white teddy bear that Clark won for Lois in Smallville. Sure, I was a little surprised: why did Lois want this teddy bear for her wedding night. It was cute, but.... In Portuguese was made this same mistake. I just found out when I got to read the scripts. It didn't make sense that Lois would want a teddy bear in her honeymoon, but it was what aired. At least we're not alone in the mistakes department.
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