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#221049 05/05/09 04:38 PM
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Hey, all,

I know some of you out there are better with computers than I am. Well, I'd really like to buy one of those new mini laptops (8 or 10 inch screen), but I'm wondering if it would be worth it since most of them have Windows XP and there is a new Windows version coming out in the fall. I really like the idea of being able to carry one of them in my purse.

I have a palm, but I can't seem to get it to sync with XP so it isn't very helpful now days. I've thought about going with another one of those, but I really like the idea of having a keyboard with the mini's.

So does anyone have one of the mini's?


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We have a 10" mini. The fabulous Beverly uses it as her primary PC. It's running XP and except for the small keyboard and screen size it works just as well as any other PC. We have Open Office 3.0 loaded for all of those tasks and Firefox as the web browser.

We looked at the 8 and 9 inch versions but they were just too small to use. We also have a 12" which is better only by way of the larger screen.

I've been very pleased with the 10" mini. Bev prefers to use it due to the long battery life and the light weight. In our house we also have the 12" laptop along with a 14" and a 15". She continues to use the 10" so she must be reasonably happy with it.

One thing to remember, at least for the 10" that we have, these are small PC's not big PDA's. I would think it would be too big to be a PDA replacement.

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Thanks, Bob. What kind do you have? The kinds I've mostly seen are Acers. I looked on the Dell site but I was very surprised to find that their mini's were much more expensive and have about 10 - 20% of the storage capacity.

Oh, and if you meant that I couldn't use it as a replacement for my PDA (which isn't my intent, although my pda is pretty useless these days) because it wouldn't fit in my purse... Well, you should see my purse. The ones I use are probably big enough for a full size laptop. laugh I never really liked my PDA for keeping track of appts, etc, anyway, because it's just faster to pull a datebook out of my purse. But, yes, I know the mini's won't do the same things like let me write on the screen...


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I've had "netbooks" from Asus for almost a year -- got one for my anniversary last June, then upgraded in January. (They call it an "eee pc" so naturally I refer to it as my "eep") The new one has a nearly-full-size keyboard (except for the number pad, of course). The right-side shift key is too small, but mostly I'm happy with it.

I've been using it mostly for computing around the house (once hubby set up the wireless network, anyway) -- my main computer is right next to the big TV, so if someone's watching something I don't want to overhear, it's great to be able to take my work up to the bedroom. I can do homework up there, or write, or read fanfic, or just surf.

Mine runs Linux, so I'm using Firefox and Open Office, but that hasn't been a problem. But then, my husband has messed around in Linux for years, so he handles all that stuff for me.

And I love that I can put it in my purse and go smile Mind you, that purse can get kinda heavy...

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Ours is also an Eee PC. We have a 1000HA. The only thing we don't like is the placement of the right-side shift key. They fixed this in the slightly newer 1000HE model and I would recommend that model based on what I've read and my own experiences with the HA.

One thing to keep in mind is the lack of an optical drive. This means that you need to either:
a) Be sure you can do without.
b) Have one that you can share from another computer.
c) Buy an external USB CD/DVD drive (about $100)
As long as you can live with the lack of an optical drive and the small size, these are great little devices.

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Avoid HP's 2133 model, especially their original Linux release. It's a lovely-looking machine with a big hard drive and good screen but I know several people who've had problems; in my case the WiFi signal it sent out could actually make routers crash (and no, I'm not exaggerating, this happened on three different routers!), other people have had weird graphics and hard disk problems.

The Asus eee PC 1000 and its successors have a VERY good reputation - don't know anyone who has anything bad to say about them.

Re external CD or DVD drives - I've seen dozens of USB CD drives on sale on ebay UK for £20 and up, I'd imagine that there are equivalents in the USA. Or you can take any old drive from a desktop machine and put it into an external housing for about the same price.


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Today's Sunday LA Times carried an article on the pros & cons of the various brands. We're hanging with our small VAIO (I hate the keyboard), but the kids are getting netbooks. I don't know what kind yet.
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Weighing in on the laptop lightweights
Most netbooks weigh less than 3 pounds and are the perfect travel companions, best suited for e-mail, Internet, word processing and light photographic needs.
By Terry Gardner

May 08, 2009

On a recent trip, my romance with my MacBook Pro hit the skids. When I'm forced to check my rolling carry-on and must carry him, his 5 1/2 pounds drag me down. So my eyes are roving toward a lightweight travel companion.

Most ultraportables and netbooks weigh less than 3 pounds. At $1,800 or more, an ultraportable (which has a full-size keyboard, larger screen and faster processor) would leave a crater in my wallet, but a netbook -- typically less than $500 -- may make only a dent.

Netbooks are secondary systems -- best for e-mail, Internet, word processing and light photographic needs. They usually don't have an optical drive, and their screens are as small as 8 inches and their keyboards are as much as 82% smaller than a standard one. Their Intel Atom processors are slower too.

I sought recommendations from editors Joanna Stern and Mark Spoonauer of Laptopmag.com, Brad Linder of Liliputing.com, and Phil Baker, inventor of a popular PDA folding keyboard and author of "From Concept to Consumer."

Representatives from Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, MSI, Samsung and Sony also weighed in.

Unless noted, featured netbooks include Wi-Fi, Ethernet, Bluetooth, a memory card slot, external VGA output connector, integrated graphics, two to three USB ports, built-in camera, headphone and microphone jacks and one-year warranty.

ACER Aspire 10.1"
$349 | 2.95 pounds

Pros

Budget price; six-cell battery

Cons

Smaller keyboard and touch pad; no Bluetooth

Comment

Stern: "In the netbook arena, bang for your buck is the name of the game."

ASUS Eee PC 1000HE
$399 | 3.2 pounds

Pros

Faster Atom N280 processor; great keyboard; extended battery life; upgradable RAM; optional external TV tuner; free online storage at www.eeestorage.com; Great U.S. tech support

Cons

Slightly bulkier; glossy case attracts fingerprints

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Linder: "This netbook's real claim to fame is an extended battery that runs seven to eight hours on a single charge."

Spoonauer: "I'd argue that this . . . offers best bang for your buck right now."

Dell Inspiron Mini 10"
$399 | 2.6 pounds

Pros

Thin light case (six color choices); spacious keyboard, spill-resistant keyboard; six-cell battery option (+$30). Optional upgrades include high-resolution display, Bluetooth, built-in mobile broadband, integrated GPS and TV tuner capability

Cons

No VGA port

Comment

Stern: "The system is one of the thinnest and lightest in its class, and the company has nearly caught up to the competition with its roomy keyboard."

HP Mini 2140
$479 | 3 pounds*

Pros

Great water-resistant, spacious keyboard; sturdy magnesium alloy case; touch pad with scrolling; long-lasting six-cell battery with HP Fast Charge technology (lasts eight hours); optional high-definition display (+$25)

Cons

Vertical rather than horizontal mouse buttons

Comment

Stern, Spoonauer, Linder and Baker all like the 2140 for travel.

Stern: "When it comes to netbooks for road warriors, endurance and durability top the list. The HP Mini 2140 . . . [has] both in an attractive shell."

Lenovo IdeaPad S10
$399 | 2.82 pounds*

Pros

Responsive keyboard; quick-start Linux OS for light tasks such as Skype calls; good backup software; one button restore feature; stylish compact chassis

Cons

Smaller keyboard and touch pad; relocated right shift key

Comment

Baker: "The S10 offers a good balance of features plus Lenovo ranks at the top for service and support among all the netbook brands."

MSI Wind U123
$379 | 3.2 pounds**

Pros

Faster Atom N280 processor; comfortable keyboard; upgradable RAM; 1.3 MP webcam; optional TV tuner, Bluetooth and nine-cell battery that lasts nine hours

Cons

Small touch pad; stiff mouse buttons; nine-cell battery adds weight

Comment

Stern: "For just $379, the MSI Wind U123 offers good performance for a netbook and more than eight hours of endurance."

Samsung NC10
$415-$429 | 2.8 pounds

Pros

Great roomy keyboard; touch pad with scrolling; thin and light; six-cell high capacity battery (lasts six-plus hours); Superior 1.3 MP webcam; useful Samsung utility software for system recovery, data backup, performance boosting, etc.

Cons

Small, narrow touch pad

Comment

Laptop magazine considers the NC10 the most well-rounded netbook on the market.

Samsung N110
$469 | 2.8 pounds

Pros

Same assets as NC10 plus battery lasts seven-plus hours; glossy screen; larger track pad and rounded palm rest; multi-tasks well (Web surf during a Skype video call.)

Cons

Pretty case, but it attracts fingerprints; single touchbar instead of two buttons for touchpad

Comment

Stern: "Samsung has hit the mark on creating a solid chassis with a stellar keyboard. The N110 outruns all other netbooks on the market to date with over seven hours of battery life."

SONY VAIO P series
$899+ | 1.4 pounds

Pros

Super-light and stylish; comfy keyboard; LED backlit 8-inch screen; Thinkpad-like pointing stick; Instant On function for quick access to photos, music, etc., outside of Vista; built-in GPS and mobile broadband

Cons

Windows Vista slows it down; no touchpad; three-cell battery lasts only four hours; slow GPS

Comment

Spoonauer: "As a design statement, the VAIO P is a breakthrough, and Sony crams an amazing amount of technology into a 1.4- pound chassis. We just wish it had more pep."

*with six-cell battery

**with nine-cell battery
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, Artemis. This is great!!! Thanks again!!


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Thanks from me too to everyone who's posted here about netbooks. I am now the proud owner of an Asus EeePC 1000 HE - ie the latest version. It's lovely!! It's blue and it has gorgeous red and blue lights and the screen is amazing and the keyboard is much more user-friendly than any of the other netbooks I looked at previously when I was just mildly curious. smile1

This will now replace a laptop any time I'm travelling.


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#221058 05/12/09 07:42 PM
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Okay, I'm asking for some more help. I've pretty much decided on the Asus 1000 HE, but seeing as I live in somewhat of a rural area, I can't find a dealer in my area. I'm leery of spending that much money online. So what kind of luck have some of you had with ordering computers online?


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I have had good luck with online purchases. You should too if you stay with reputable vendors. I purchased my Eee PC from Amazon.com.

I've been lucky in that I've never had to deal with any returns so I don't know how hard or easy that would be. The vendors that I have purchased PC's from via the internet are:

Dell
HP
tigerdirect.com
newegg.com
Amazon.com

Over the years I've spent thousands of dollars on PCs and PC-related equipment from these places and have never had any problems with any of them.

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If you're going to get a netbook, Classicalla - and now that I have my Eee PC 1000HE I thoroughly endorse the recommendation; I love it! - you might also want to think about a carrying case for when you might be taking it further than short trips. You get a little slip-case with it, which is great for protecting the shell from scratches and so on, but that's all.

I bought a Targus carrying case - extremely light, but enough to hold the netbook, power-cable, a mouse (because I HATE touchpads), flashdrive and other bits and pieces. It has handles and a shoulder-strap. I can't find the one I got on the Targus website, but there are others that look similar and would do as good a job. here\'s the result of the Amazon search for Targus netbook cases.

And you will have NO problems ordering via Amazon - though make sure you're actually ordering from Amazon and not a third-party vendor.


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Hi, guys. I'm back with more questions. I've been out of town and working extra shifts at work, so I still haven't gotten my mini.

Today, I see that their is another ASUS on sale and I thought I'd ask you all about it.

It's an ASUS, EPC900HDB. It has a 1 GB memory and a 160GB HD. Does anyone know how that would compare with the 1000 HE. I do know that it has a smaller screen.

Thanks again for all your help!


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Hi Class:
We looked at the ASUS at Fry's (a west coast electronics chain of good bargains and repute)and it looked very good. All we would need on travel. It was a good price. We're sticking with our VAIO for now, but if we needed something, I think I would have bought the ASUS.
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Nancy, the main differences are the screen size - which makes a LOT of difference - and the keyboard size and layout. There were a lot of complaints about the size and positioning of the right shift key on the 900, as I recall, and the keyboard itself is also quite a bit smaller.

If you're able to go to the 1000HE, I really recommend it.

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