My only problem is the really implausible turn at the end, not the hospital scene because the situation did seem dire, but rather Lois' simple acceptance afterward. As if she would be ok with the situation. That's not how I see her at all.
Her accpetance does seem suprising, especially given her independent character - hopefully the sequel will address that point. Perhaps it was the stress of the moment sort of thing - she wasn't really procesing the information.
But I'm really curious about how she's explained that pregnancy to herself. I just don't see her character as one who would have entered into a sexual relationship so soon after S leaves, especially given she's been up on the roof waiting for him.
Jude, thanks for answering my questions!!
As for the memory wipe at the end of Superman II, I agree with alcyonearia that it was really Clark's naivete that drove him to do it -- he really thought he was acting in her best interests. Remember that since he had got his powers back, he could no longer be with her, and he had chosen his responsibility to humanity over his love for her -- and the pain of knowing that was driving her crazy. She says as much in that final scene, which is what drives him to do the mind wipe thing in the first place.
I'd forgotten his rationale for the memory wipe. Although it sounds alturistic, it really wasn't his decision to make - very patriarchal, etc.
Kathy sums this up well:
"Now, since it had all just happened there was no denying that the emotional distress would be at its greatest point here, and certainly her pain would have lessened over time. So in that sense it would have been better for him to have waited before doing something, but that obviously wouldn't work for plot purposes."
Ann raises a huge point about Superman's loss of powers if he makes love to a human. That was a big deal in S 11 - so how is the SR -the sequel going to 'unspool' that one? or do they intend to, I wonder ? Just leave him as a sort of asexual god figure?
Actually, the more I think about all of this, the more annoyed it makes me. I'd rather just enjoy the new movie as an entity in itself, because otherwise the plot holes become too large for me to fanwank shut.
LOL See, that's the problem - i can only buy so many plot holes/unbelievebale things per movie.
And our own Clark did (misguidedly) choose to help NK and leave Lois behind, knowing that there was at least a possibility that he might never return.
True, but Lois was very much a part of that decision.
by adding Richard, I felt like they took away from Lois, making her seem less capable. Richard flew that plane back into the fray; he pulled Lois out of the water along with Superman. Sure, she jumped in first, but HE ultimately was needed to save the day.
Sigh - it doesn't change does it?
So not sure about seeing this movie. It's the relationship that interests me, but it sounds like it's not really dealt with in any depth. Plus, I want to see a strong Lois Lane (the New Yorker review said this Lois lacked the feistiness of either Margot Kidder's or Teri Hatcher's).
Also the religious subtext makes me a tad squirmy.
Still, I'm thinking Spacey could make a fine Luthor. And I'm not totally writing off the appeal of those special effects...
c.